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> 85K - you can live everywhere besides the coastal US cities comfortably. This is far from true. There are plenty of expensive places to live away from the coasts
Only if you seek them out (ski resorts and such). I've lived in both of the most expensive major inland cities (Chicago and Denver) and $85k is plenty in both, even for a small family.
I won by just grinding and touching grass
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this is possible now with AI
In all seriousness, where are these stories? There are so many "entrepreneurs" vibing away, but who is getting paid? I feel like there should have been some decent exits by now but all I've found are a few lifestyle businesses and a lot of hucksters. My experience: I feel like I could build a real product solo much more quickly than ever before, but the reality is my side-projects have been mostly futzing around with…
Anyone else in the club?
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Only if you seek them out (ski resorts and such). I've lived in both of the most expensive major inland cities (Chicago and Denver) and $85k is plenty in both, even for a small family.
How many kids did you have when making $85k in Denver?
In 2000, very possible
In 2010, probable
In 2026, unlikely
I don't know if I should feel sad or laugh at the pain at the same time lol. what a wonderful way to reflect reality for a good population of devs. you can hack the game i.e real life 1. live in a cheaper location 2. do things that don't scale & do the ugly work that naturally extends your runway, you don't need to apply to YC remember the median Pay in the US - is 61800 based on ADP the largest payroll provider. so…
I don't know if I should feel sad or laugh at the pain at the same time lol. what a wonderful way to reflect reality for a good population of devs. you can hack the game i.e real life 1. live in a cheaper location 2. do things that don't scale & do the ugly work that naturally extends your runway, you don't need to apply to YC remember the median Pay in the US - is 61800 based on ADP the largest payroll provider. so…
Cost of living has risen dramatically everywhere. Unless you live in a small town in a poor state like I do then 85K sounds pretty bad. That's barely above the poverty line at this point.
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> 85K - you can live everywhere besides the coastal US cities comfortably. This is far from true. There are plenty of expensive places to live away from the coasts
Only if you seek them out (ski resorts and such). I've lived in both of the most expensive major inland cities (Chicago and Denver) and $85k is plenty in both, even for a small family.
Our family lived in HCOL places like Boston and LA before returning to Cincinnati a few years ago. It’s still cheaper than those but wow… I remember it being a lot cheaper when I left. Since we returned it’s gone up even more. Some neighborhoods went up by as much as 25% in the last 5 years and are not coming down.
I’ve been convinced for years that the inflation numbers are cooked. Or at least “massaged.” I don’t understand how people with only near median salaries live. It’s amazing there aren’t riots.