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Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by apsurd »

jeremyjh wrote: post #63
abeyk wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is possible now with AI

In all seriousness, where are these stories? There are so many "entrepreneurs" vibing away, but who is getting paid? I feel like there should have been some decent exits by now but all I've found are a few lifestyle businesses and a lot of hucksters. My experience: I feel like I could build a real product solo much more quickly than ever before, but the reality is my side-projects have been mostly futzing around with…

from a business standpoint, PMF was never about the underlying software. It’s a developer’s wet dream to toil away in a garage toward some Technical ideal, and then have the world applaud their genius and shower them with money.

Now to be fair, there are windows of time where that really did happen for some few. As a craftsman developer, I have the same wet dream. The problem is I know it’s just a dream now that I’m older.

So what AI has done is condense the frame in which a developer can spend years toiling away in the belief that they just need to keep going. Now the feedback loop is more instantly connected to reality and the reality is most all this stuff nobody wants or needs. starting a business now is ironically about all the business bits and that’s just rather annoying for builders like the HN crowd, myself included. This is more cathartic than anything. What do I know about entrepreneurial success?

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by aliteraryhigh »

dzonga wrote: post #48

I don't know if I should feel sad or laugh at the pain at the same time lol. what a wonderful way to reflect reality for a good population of devs. you can hack the game i.e real life 1. live in a cheaper location 2. do things that don't scale & do the ugly work that naturally extends your runway, you don't need to apply to YC remember the median Pay in the US - is 61800 based on ADP the largest payroll provider. so…

The last 2 statements are so far from reality it's insane. I live in the south/the midwest (depending on who you ask) in an okay-sized city, I was a SWE making $85k/year gross and struggling to cover housing and bills, and I got laid off when the company "eliminated my position".

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by [deleted] »

dzonga wrote: post #48

I don't know if I should feel sad or laugh at the pain at the same time lol. what a wonderful way to reflect reality for a good population of devs. you can hack the game i.e real life 1. live in a cheaper location 2. do things that don't scale & do the ugly work that naturally extends your runway, you don't need to apply to YC remember the median Pay in the US - is 61800 based on ADP the largest payroll provider. so…

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Re: FAANG Simulator

#94

Post by xyzelement »

I think the strategy of grinding and rising young works well (as it does in life) that way you have the "padding" to handle a layoff or a period of touching grass.

Also (so far) layoffs + severance have been good. They work well in the game too - take the severance, touch grass and leet code, get a new job

Re: FAANG Simulator

#95

Post by jambalaya8 »

daemonologist wrote: post #89
vkou wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so before aiming for millions aim for 85K. yeah a far cry from the FAANG wage - but one - you will never get laid off. People making 85K absolutely get laid off.

I think they're saying that you should build a small business which nets you 85k, not find an employer that underpays you. (Whether this makes you more resistant to being "fired" is still up for debate of course.)

Small businesses have difficulties all the time.

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by chirau »

aliteraryhigh wrote: post #92
dzonga wrote: post #48

I don't know if I should feel sad or laugh at the pain at the same time lol. what a wonderful way to reflect reality for a good population of devs. you can hack the game i.e real life 1. live in a cheaper location 2. do things that don't scale & do the ugly work that naturally extends your runway, you don't need to apply to YC remember the median Pay in the US - is 61800 based on ADP the largest payroll provider. so…

The last 2 statements are so far from reality it's insane. I live in the south/the midwest (depending on who you ask) in an okay-sized city, I was a SWE making $85k/year gross and struggling to cover housing and bills, and I got laid off when the company "eliminated my position".

How much was/is your rent per month? And how many dependents?

Re: FAANG Simulator

#97

Post by jen20 »

qurren wrote: post #26

Maybe add a non-US-citizen mode where if you are ever unemployed for more than 2 cycles you lose, unless you already have a side project with enormous traction And if you are a US citizen and get randomly get thrown into a group of mostly non-citizen coworkers they will grind like hell due to the above, and if you don't grind extra hard you get the PIP faster, because you're stack ranked against them

US citizen and permanent resident are equivalent for the purposes of this...

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by overgard »

dzonga wrote: post #48

I don't know if I should feel sad or laugh at the pain at the same time lol. what a wonderful way to reflect reality for a good population of devs. you can hack the game i.e real life 1. live in a cheaper location 2. do things that don't scale & do the ugly work that naturally extends your runway, you don't need to apply to YC remember the median Pay in the US - is 61800 based on ADP the largest payroll provider. so…

I wish. I live in the midwest in a stable but unsexy city (probably around like 50th biggest in the nation? So recognizable but not particularly major). 85k is pretty painful here.

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by OhSoHumble »

dzonga wrote: post #48

I don't know if I should feel sad or laugh at the pain at the same time lol. what a wonderful way to reflect reality for a good population of devs. you can hack the game i.e real life 1. live in a cheaper location 2. do things that don't scale & do the ugly work that naturally extends your runway, you don't need to apply to YC remember the median Pay in the US - is 61800 based on ADP the largest payroll provider. so…

It actually really hurt when I pulled up the page. It's why I'm trying to bootstrap my own software company off of my savings.

I'm aiming for 85k (or there abouts) after a few years of earning nothing. But I can't help but feel like a failure because distribution and convincing people to use my software is extremely difficult. I don't want to go back to the tech industry but at the same time I don't know if I have it in me to go "yeah, I'm still working on my but I have 0 - 10 users" for the next few years.

Re: FAANG Simulator

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Post by OhSoHumble »

jambalaya8 wrote: post #95
daemonologist wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they're saying that you should build a small business which nets you 85k, not find an employer that underpays you. (Whether this makes you more resistant to being "fired" is still up for debate of course.)

Small businesses have difficulties all the time.

Yeah.

"The market" lays you off - or heavily reduces your salary.

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