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Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by [deleted] »

supern0va wrote: post #326
mik1998 wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All models are political. The rest of them are just sufficiently woke for you.

I'm curious, do you have an example of a level of "woke" extremeness demonstrated by the "rest of them" that is on par with Mecha-Hitler? Because yes, all views on reality are indeed political, but the tendency of most of the models is actually toward the middle, with perhaps some left bias.

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Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by rbtprograms »

solarhoma wrote: post #317
jspaetzel wrote: post #309

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How's this going with the rest of the models?

My immediate thought as well. Every other AI platform has very left leaning guardrails installed. Grok is the only AI platform that has been shown to be center leaning.

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Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by otterley »

gordian-mind wrote: post #417
otterley wrote: post #401

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Not wanting to be affiliated with Elon Musk or his business enterprises is not "derangement."

It's deranged to believe correctly naming something is "affiliation".

It was a comedic naming. You might be taking things too seriously.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by gozucito »

thrownawaysz wrote: post #4

Is there a reason the AI companies usually announce new products so close to each other. Like not just the same day but literally hours apart. GPT Live then an hour later Grok 4.5. As if they try to one up. I expect something new from Anhtropic as well today.

They get to compare their model to the old ones from the competition.

In this case, ChatGPT 5.6 Sol / Ultra releases tomorrow, so today is the last day Grok can compare Grok 4.5 to Codex 5.5. If they did it tomorrow people would point out they're comparing themselves against old models.

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Post by behnamoh »

phillipcarter wrote: post #424
solarhoma wrote: post #317

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My immediate thought as well. Every other AI platform has very left leaning guardrails installed. Grok is the only AI platform that has been shown to be center leaning.

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choose one:

    brutally honest vs kindness at all costs

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by nonethewiser »

phillipcarter wrote: post #424
solarhoma wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My immediate thought as well. Every other AI platform has very left leaning guardrails installed. Grok is the only AI platform that has been shown to be center leaning.

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Not really. Kindness is not letting homeless people spiral out on the streets, for example. It would be kinder to everyone to enforce the law.

Weaponized empathy is a left leaning tool for sure.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by fierycatnet »

jesse_dot_id wrote: post #291

I just don't think that I can ever trust an xAI model knowing that they are actively trying to shape its replies to fit a political narrative. How can you trust their models to be reliable in a business setting with the foreknowledge that their models are being nudged around in the backend?

I've never had that issue with Grok. Latest studies I've seen put him in a very neutral zone. Left/Center/Right politics were all about the same percentages in his replies. Gemini was similar. Other two were heavily left wing leaning. When it comes to politics and world events, I find Grok to be neutral and it will push back. It helps that he is fetching it directly from X and shows references. Others just Google for biased news articles to present their idea.

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Post by inspectorSlap »

margorczynski wrote: post #296
jesse_dot_id wrote: post #291

I just don't think that I can ever trust an xAI model knowing that they are actively trying to shape its replies to fit a political narrative. How can you trust their models to be reliable in a business setting with the foreknowledge that their models are being nudged around in the backend?

By not using them on something political? Why do I care when I'll just use it to generate code?

Has anyone actually used Grok to code? How does he do?

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Post by blcknight »

jesse_dot_id wrote: post #291

I just don't think that I can ever trust an xAI model knowing that they are actively trying to shape its replies to fit a political narrative. How can you trust their models to be reliable in a business setting with the foreknowledge that their models are being nudged around in the backend?

Elon's rhetoric doesn't really match the model's behavior. It is willing to criticize Elon and argues against many of the insane right way points he tries to make.

Re: Grok 4.5

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Post by jvanderbot »

solarhoma wrote: post #317
jspaetzel wrote: post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How's this going with the rest of the models?

My immediate thought as well. Every other AI platform has very left leaning guardrails installed. Grok is the only AI platform that has been shown to be center leaning.

Replies to this thread are missing some context about the actual studies that actually looked at this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2026/0...

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