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Re: GPT‑Live

#391

>GPT‑Live can show it’s paying attention with phrases like “mhmm” or “yeah” [...] Nooooooo!

Yeah, I mean - I know that people do this in real life, but when I encountered this recently while trying GPT-Live, it was truly annoying - I felt like it kept causing me to lose my train of thought. Perhaps if it was a bit more adaptive or could even be turned off.. but if it does this every.. single... time... I am saying something and I pause for a second... ugh.

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#392
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> every minute you spend texting or talking to a chatbot is a minute that you'd have spent talking to another human beings Very blatantly and obviously not though???

The extent to which it's true is the extent of the evilness of the technology. Go search the phrase "ai boyfriend" on reddit sometime; imagine what it will be like when society is fully baked with this shit. You're talking to AIs all day at work. You're talking to AI's when you use social media. You're talking to AIs for therapy. You're talking to AIs on dating apps. If your answer is "well I'll simply touch grass" I…

There’s something phenomenally powerful, uncanny, and potentially deeply corrosive about current AI. Dismissing it as “evil” is pat, and prevents any full encounter with something that now irrevocably exists and deserves and demands the consideration of thinking people.

Re: GPT‑Live

#393
This is fascinating to me.

Whether that's due to my slight autism or massive nerdery, I don't want more realistic voice. I already switched to non-advanced voice in gpt, and I cannot imagine wanting the mmmhms, the yesses, the laughs, in my ai interaction. I want to ask a structured question and get a structured meaningful response. Informative and structured are really the KPIs. The umms and ahms of existing gpt advanced voice are annoying enough, the recent increased usage of first person almost a deal breaker (when asking for bike technique on lose surfaces yesterday, it literally gave me "back when I was learning bikes riding" story - eww).

Fascinating to see the architectural advances though, even when they deliver something I personally don't need :)

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#394

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I highly recommend simply enjoying the walk.

Every time something along these lines is posted, comments like this show up. The thing I don't get is...no one would say this about listening to a podcast or audiobook on a walk. I'm not sure why people choose to demonize this specific use of time during walks.

It's coming from a place of objecting to burnout/overwork culture.

Recently I witnessed a CTO mention in a public channel that with Claude remote control people can now work while getting a coffee or other breaks during the day.

Tech is actively moving in a direction of destroying all the gains from the labour movement in service of enriching capital out of a combination of FOMO or fear of being replaced.

So yeah, when folks say "hey look now I can even work during leisure activities!" yeah, the reaction is negative.

I'm far more surprised that this surprises you.

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#395
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Is it responsive to personality settings? I actively don't want fake AI girlfriend, but I do get a ton of value out of voice mode. Looking forward to trying this but hoping it's not a creepy overdone mess (like Sesame). Expectations are they'll keep doubling down on fake AI girlfriend approach because the thing I want probably wouldn't drive engagement anywhere nearly as well

I too found this with their previous attempts. I have my Chat personality settings stripped right down to no-fluff. I'd want voice to be more akin to the Star Trek computer, and less akin to as you said an AI friend, but previously it was tuned too personable/friend-like.

Well you remember how Captain Kirk had his computer speak to him in a special female voice, and he was "married" to the ship ;)

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#396

What I’m missing from this announcement is the capability to use connectors and tools. I don’t really get it - NONE of the frontier assistants can use tools / connectors while in voice mode - Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok. It seems so obvious: I want to be able to research stuff, pull up documents, jot down notes and do productive work while I’m talking to it, and not end voice mode whenever I need to connect to an a…

Using gpt-realtime-2 you can achieve very similar results with low latency streaming which gives you this feeling of an assistant that is there in the room with you. I made a tweak to so you can try out the gpt-realtime-2 model with tooling that gives you this: https://sippet.ai/?enabler=hn

Kept trying to use the demo, but despite giving it microphone permissions and seeing that the microphone was in use, couldn't get the demo to 'hear' me at all.

Re: GPT‑Live

#397

This is fascinating to me. Whether that's due to my slight autism or massive nerdery, I don't want more realistic voice. I already switched to non-advanced voice in gpt, and I cannot imagine wanting the mmmhms, the yesses, the laughs, in my ai interaction. I want to ask a structured question and get a structured meaningful response. Informative and structured are really the KPIs. The umms and ahms of existing gpt adv…

Honestly I find it distracting when people do the mmmhmm thing. I don’t find it encouraging or helpful or whatever.

Re: GPT‑Live

#399

This is the opposite direction AI should be going. Human relationships are the most valuable thing we have, and so, naturally, technology seeks to intermediate and now replace them. I'm not Catholic, but this podcast presents a very interesting argument against talking to AI as if they were human: https://newpolity.com/podcasts-hub/debate-chatbots

I want to bring some attention to a spectacular sleight of hand that occurs at minute 4 of this podcast:

"The way that I formulate the argument, just to get us started here, is that acts, the things we do, have ends. We act for an end. They have a purpose. And that it is wrong to deliberately frustrate an act from attaining its end, from attaining its purpose."

I will draw your attention to the three instances of "end", first we have the noble, tautological, "have ends", actions have ends; then, following close behind we see "an end", we act for an end, those ends have been made into one now, singular end; and finally, "its end", the act, as an entity unto itself, has an end you mustn't interrupt.

Re: GPT‑Live

#400

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time something along these lines is posted, comments like this show up. The thing I don't get is...no one would say this about listening to a podcast or audiobook on a walk. I'm not sure why people choose to demonize this specific use of time during walks.

It's coming from a place of objecting to burnout/overwork culture. Recently I witnessed a CTO mention in a public channel that with Claude remote control people can now work while getting a coffee or other breaks during the day. Tech is actively moving in a direction of destroying all the gains from the labour movement in service of enriching capital out of a combination of FOMO or fear of being replaced. So yeah, wh…

I hear you, though I will point out that OP said “projects”. Could be a house remodel, ebike build, any manner of project.
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