Weirdly enough, my phone (Ocean) happens to be number 3 on the list, didn't expect that. But all the users are from Brazil for some reason? Is the phone really that popular?
LineageOS Statistics
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Re: LineageOS Statistics
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you are talking about the addition of microG, that indeed seems like it hasn't been mentioned on the blog, although I'd argue very likely due to an oversight. I can find internal conversations that it deserves to be announced in a more prominent way than on the "Sunsetting LineageOS 18.1" post, was left as "to be added to the LineageOS 22.x" blog post, and then just never made the initial draft. Whoops. If you are…
While my currently favored approach is GOS', I'd really like to know more. Did anything else change? I'm 15 years out of date. In my mind: * root is still frowned upon * microG is frowned upon * bypassing SafetyNet (sorry, Play Integrity) is frowned upon * bootloader relocking is not oficially nor semi-officially supported * missing patches (Google's 6 month source embargo) were not talked about
>* bootloader relocking is not oficially nor semi-officially supported
That sounds more like an OEM problem.
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly why I stopped installing LineageOS on my phone. While part of it was that I was no longer interested in tinkering with ROM and playing cat-and-mouse game with SafetyNet/root detection/whatever, the other part is that I cannot trust these ROMs, some of which come (or came) with their own bloatware. Those that have official builds are of course better, but the overall experience and security situation is still…
Agreed, the xda forum thing is a huge security smell. "Here, download this big binary from a random forum user and put it on a device you carry with you everywhere which is equipped with internet, camera, microphone, and GPS. You're welcome!" The GrapheneOS setup seems a lot better (though it has more limited support).
currently on GraphineOS for those very reasons. There is some amazing stuff in XDA forums but ultimately it's just some random guy posting some random ROM.
Only way I was able to get Cyanogenmod on stuff back in the day, was to use shady hacks from XDA, but man it was super slow and seemed to use a ton of bandwidth...
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Can you give examples of what you consider "nasty attitude" on their part? All criticism of other project I've seen was either cold, clinical technical criticism, or defense against slander propagated in the media against GrapheneOS. I haven't seen GrapheneOS folks going out of their way to attack anyone.
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#115It's quite sad to see these stats. It used to be the defacto standard for custom ROMs. These dwindling numbers make me think either people aren't as interested in custom ROMs anymore and using the (bloated/Google) factory ROMs or maybe there's some new standard. Didn't these numbers used to be much, much higher in the past? NB: Since I'm on GrapheneOS now I haven't looked back
My phone's bootloader is unlocked but LineageOS doesn't support it (Zenfone 9). I would use it if I could.
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#116Wow LineageOS really is a bazaar, and not a cathedral. * 74% of installs are unofficial builds, not ones released by LineageOS. * 2/3 of US installs are on non-phones (waydroid, nintendo switch, rpi, etc) * Most of the installs on actual phones are in China, Brazil and Vietnam * Less than 21% of installs are on versions that receive security updates, and less than 9% of installs are on the latest version (mostly beca…
Exactly why I stopped installing LineageOS on my phone. While part of it was that I was no longer interested in tinkering with ROM and playing cat-and-mouse game with SafetyNet/root detection/whatever, the other part is that I cannot trust these ROMs, some of which come (or came) with their own bloatware. Those that have official builds are of course better, but the overall experience and security situation is still…
xda is older than github and has a lot of institutional inertia. Also I get the impression that many of the people involved in the xda ecosystem are hobbyists that just kind of learn things as they go along and have less exposure to bigco software engineering practices.
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly why I stopped installing LineageOS on my phone. While part of it was that I was no longer interested in tinkering with ROM and playing cat-and-mouse game with SafetyNet/root detection/whatever, the other part is that I cannot trust these ROMs, some of which come (or came) with their own bloatware. Those that have official builds are of course better, but the overall experience and security situation is still…
xda is older than github and has a lot of institutional inertia. Also I get the impression that many of the people involved in the xda ecosystem are hobbyists that just kind of learn things as they go along and have less exposure to bigco software engineering practices.
You talk as if github is a daunting service only meant for enterprise customers.
When in reality it's easy to sign up and used by almost every kind of project you can think of, including someone's 100 line random bash script with a single sentence README, a tiny embedded device hobby project all the way to a vibe coded project, from people who know nothing about software engineering. Issues are PRs are regularly used for all those projects. You almost need to go extra mile to not put your stuff on github.
I don't think there is any reasonable excuse/explanation other than "inertia".
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody was saying anything about x86_64 being the vast majority of Waydroid installs or not but you, so not sure what's your point. Read my first comment again.
The parent said "2/3 of US installs are on non-phones (waydroid, nintendo switch, rpi, etc)", you responded with "Some Waydroid installations are on phones". My response to you was about the vast majority of waydroid installs tracked here are highly unlikely to be on phones due to the CPU architecture.
Your response was unwarranted. I never said anything that would suggest that most of these are phones. Some of these 2/3 are, even if they're in the minority.
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#119Recently installed LineageOS on an old Samsung tablet I had laying around. The thing was barely usable with whatever the highest Android version was it was comparable with. Now it works wonderfully! Really happy with it. Privacy features aside, Lineage can do wonders to revive old hardware
My Nokia T20 is getting to this point and I wish Lineage was an option. Sadly, I don't think it has enough of a footprint for anyone to bother with writing the firmware/drivers -- I wish I had the time to give it a serious try. Seeing this class of devices reduced to e-waste really bums me out. :(
Yeah, I was lucky. My Samsung device is officially supported. As you said, since no one else has had the interest to do it for your Nokia, it’s basically up to you to make it work, since they rely on volunteers.
I wouldn’t begin to know how to take the base ROM and adapt it to a specific device, but I’d imagine any of the frontier LLMs could probably make quick work of it. It might be worth taking a weekend, and spending some tokens on coaching a model through the task?
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
While my currently favored approach is GOS', I'd really like to know more. Did anything else change? I'm 15 years out of date. In my mind: * root is still frowned upon * microG is frowned upon * bypassing SafetyNet (sorry, Play Integrity) is frowned upon * bootloader relocking is not oficially nor semi-officially supported * missing patches (Google's 6 month source embargo) were not talked about
>* bootloader relocking is not oficially nor semi-officially supported That sounds more like an OEM problem.
If the ROM is not expecting to be relocked, it's a ROM problem as well.