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Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #4
zer0zzz wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“ Republicans who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 and deny the results of that election. The dividing line is the denial itself: the willingness to hold that an election was stolen in the absence of evidence. That single belief turns out to be a genetic marker. Everything else travels with it.” He doesn’t seem to be talking about conservatives or republicans broadly; seems like he’s focusing on a much smaller minority…

Do you seriously buy the "explanation" that "liberals vote so much more by mail-in" that both Pennsylvania and Georgia flipped even though Trump was largely ahead in both? Two states that, btw, were won by the Republicans in 2024. Which should give some food for thoughts too. I think Trump is both crazy and senile now but I also think he may be the only US president to have ever won the elections three times. Now I d…

In the absence of any legally-valid proof to the contrary in 60 court cases, then yes, I do buy that explanation.

Those who want to claim election fraud had every chance to prove it. They failed spectacularly.

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Post by ekelsen »

fragmede wrote: post #20
ekelsen wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's clearly written by AI. I find it interesting that some people recognize it immediately and others do not. I don't know what to make of it.

No it's not, your detector is broken.

Seems like yours is?

FWIW, on your own blog, the most recent post also reads as at least AI helped "Navigator Theory". This sentence in particular sticks out: "They affect what the person notices, what they dismiss, what they measure, what they trust, and what they do when reality pushes back."

The one earlier post I read does not ("toxicity of ideas").

And fwiw, online detectors seems to agree with my own judgement here.

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Post by wilbo »

jbotz wrote: post #17
Cpoll wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't notice any obvious markers, weird prose, or meandering in this one.

It's rather full of "it's not X, it's Y" and expository paragraph followed by short sentence counter-point, and "read that again". But no, I don't think it's AI, I think it's just written in a style that happens to be an attractor for LLMs.

I also got strong AI vibes, but I enjoyed the content. I thought it was a interesting summary of topics I've read many times before and even if the content was AI-assisted, does it matter? It seems there was a strong guiding hand in presenting a popular topic in a new way.

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Post by helpful-guy »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #4
zer0zzz wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“ Republicans who voted for Donald Trump in 2020 and deny the results of that election. The dividing line is the denial itself: the willingness to hold that an election was stolen in the absence of evidence. That single belief turns out to be a genetic marker. Everything else travels with it.” He doesn’t seem to be talking about conservatives or republicans broadly; seems like he’s focusing on a much smaller minority…

Do you seriously buy the "explanation" that "liberals vote so much more by mail-in" that both Pennsylvania and Georgia flipped even though Trump was largely ahead in both? Two states that, btw, were won by the Republicans in 2024. Which should give some food for thoughts too. I think Trump is both crazy and senile now but I also think he may be the only US president to have ever won the elections three times. Now I d…

Plenty of things to take issue with here, but I'll only mention the least controversial -- FDR won four elections.

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Post by ekelsen »

wilbo wrote: post #23
jbotz wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's rather full of "it's not X, it's Y" and expository paragraph followed by short sentence counter-point, and "read that again". But no, I don't think it's AI, I think it's just written in a style that happens to be an attractor for LLMs.

I also got strong AI vibes, but I enjoyed the content. I thought it was a interesting summary of topics I've read many times before and even if the content was AI-assisted, does it matter? It seems there was a strong guiding hand in presenting a popular topic in a new way.

It matters because I don't like the style. I wouldn't like it if a human wrote it. I don't like the style so much that I won't read things written with it.

So maybe she had something interesting to say, but it was not communicated to me because I bounced.

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Post by convolvatron »

elzbardico wrote: post #14
jazz9k wrote: post #2

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I learned that I don't need to agree 100% with an author's premises to find value in what she writes. She is a bit partisan, but on the other side, it is about time for us on the right to completely re-evaluate MAGA, and go about creating a third way, distinct from the old mainstream republicanism of the McCains and Bushes, but also critical of what MAGA turned out to be.

what would consider to be the essential characteristics of a third way?

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Post by eightysixfour »

fragmede wrote: post #20
ekelsen wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's clearly written by AI. I find it interesting that some people recognize it immediately and others do not. I don't know what to make of it.

No it's not, your detector is broken.

It absolutely was written with Claude. There are so many Claude-isms in the second half that it was hard for me to digest, despite enjoying the ideas.

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Post by fellowniusmonk »

ekelsen wrote: post #22
fragmede wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it's not, your detector is broken.

Seems like yours is? FWIW, on your own blog, the most recent post also reads as at least AI helped "Navigator Theory". This sentence in particular sticks out: "They affect what the person notices, what they dismiss, what they measure, what they trust, and what they do when reality pushes back." The one earlier post I read does not ("toxicity of ideas"). And fwiw, online detectors seems to agree with my own judgement…

I am absolutely shocked and freaked out by the number of long lived accounts on this thread that can't detect the fact that this is Ai composed.

Re: Has America Crossed the Asshole Threshold?

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Post by fragmede »

eightysixfour wrote: post #28
fragmede wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it's not, your detector is broken.

It absolutely was written with Claude. There are so many Claude-isms in the second half that it was hard for me to digest, despite enjoying the ideas.

Like what?
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