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Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by batperson »

hackrmn wrote: post #260
amarant wrote: post #154

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I don't understand this line of reasoning. How are you hindered from doing any of those things? What part of "AI can now do X" makes it so you can't also do X?

Fewer people aren't staring into their phones or talking to them -- makes your social antennas pick up automatically on not wanting to disturb them (lest you draw their ire for not having the social antennas long enough to pick up on the fact they're "busy and don't want to engage with you" like a gymrat with AirPods to signal they're there to pump in peace and quiet listening to their favourite playlist, not talk to…

Social people will be fine, I think this tech is far more important for lonely people who for any reason don't get to socialize much (if at all), this is especially common in older people. These people might not have any other alternatives.

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Post by supern0va »

mlsu wrote: post #214
perching_aix wrote: post #145

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> every minute you spend texting or talking to a chatbot is a minute that you'd have spent talking to another human beings Very blatantly and obviously not though???

The extent to which it's true is the extent of the evilness of the technology. Go search the phrase "ai boyfriend" on reddit sometime; imagine what it will be like when society is fully baked with this shit. You're talking to AIs all day at work. You're talking to AI's when you use social media. You're talking to AIs for therapy. You're talking to AIs on dating apps. If your answer is "well I'll simply touch grass" I…

I can't help but think you're conflating cause and effect. People are using a tool (AI) to apply a band-aid to a widespread social problem (loneliness and isolation).

It's possible that an "AI boyfriend" might make someone less prone to put in the continued effort to keep rolling the dice on dating apps, but the reality is that there's a more fundamental problem driving this.

Also, I want this tool for work. Just because society is fubar and people are using this tool as a crutch for their inability to find a partner, doesn't mean I should lose better tooling that makes my life easier.

Focus on fixing the actual problem.

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Post by derangedHorse »

nullbio wrote: post #201
jonstaab wrote: post #76

This is the opposite direction AI should be going. Human relationships are the most valuable thing we have, and so, naturally, technology seeks to intermediate and now replace them. I'm not Catholic, but this podcast presents a very interesting argument against talking to AI as if they were human: https://newpolity.com/podcasts-hub/debate-chatbots

I disagree. Fluid natural conversational AI is far more productive than any other interface for working with LLMs. Although I suppose you could make the argument that it should be more... Robotic like. Like in StarTrek. Which, is honestly probably better for work, too. A "get shit done" mode, of pure, cold, efficiency.

Ironically, Data (from TNG) has a lot of heart to him

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Post by ksec »

I am surprised that Siri has only been mentioned 5 times here, out of the current 355 comments.

I am wondering if this because Siri is so bad, people think of Siri now as a voice activation method rather than an AI assistant as it was intended.

The demo is so good, what was once a sci-fi / Iron Man Jarvis services is now real. I don't follow AI closely, but all previous iteration were at best ask and answer type of services. It wasn't real conversation. And whatever flaws it may have now, at the rate of improvement within a few iteration it will surely reach good enough stage for majority of people.

This is also scary. Not just for adults, but for kids. How they could become even more isolated.

I remember the PC era, the internet from Information Super Highway to Web 2.0 Then Smartphone. It may have been obvious to many but AI really is something much bigger than all the previous three, perhaps combined. And it is also the only one that I think is scary.

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Post by simonw »

brcmthrowaway wrote: post #285
jjulius wrote: post #150

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I highly recommend simply enjoying the walk.

One thing has remained constant over the last little period of time. AI boosters have zero taste.

I never considered that how I spend my time while walking my dog might be a matter of "taste".

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Post by m12k »

ksec wrote: post #375

I am surprised that Siri has only been mentioned 5 times here, out of the current 355 comments. I am wondering if this because Siri is so bad, people think of Siri now as a voice activation method rather than an AI assistant as it was intended. The demo is so good, what was once a sci-fi / Iron Man Jarvis services is now real . I don't follow AI closely, but all previous iteration were at best ask and answer type of…

Siri is how I set timers, alarms and reminders on my iPhone. Every once in a while, I'll try to use it to play something on Spotify via my Sonos, then give up and do it manually in the app instead.

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Post by jr3592 »

simonw wrote: post #19

I had preview access to this one for a few weeks. It's very good. I had one conversation that lasted a full hour while I was walking the dog, got some good brainstorming done against one of my projects. The best feature is that it can delegate questions out to GPT-5.5 in the background, so you're no longer restricted to a voice model that's several years behind the frontier. I did report a fun bug with it though: it…

does it work in codex?

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Post by derangedHorse »

Fraterkes wrote: post #134
athyuttamre wrote: post #28

(Atty from OpenAI here) GPT-Live-1 is the first version of a new generation of models, and we believe the full-duplex architecture + delegation enables entirely new ways of human-AI interaction. Would love to hear your feedback!

Hey! Bit of an unusual question maybe: if this stuff further exarcerbates the loneliness epidemic and atomization of society, will you be able to live with yourself you think? If you hear about teenagers only spending time with your chatbot in 5 years, will you feel some amount of personal responsibility or not? Always curious to hear you guys' perspective on that kind of stuff!

I would say no if the question was asked of me. It’s like asking if you’d feel bad about marriage if you ended up divorced with a child. Or if you’d feel bad about commenting if it made someone feel like they lost brain cells.

The morality of an action isn’t based on actual consequences because the future isn’t known in advanced. All we can do is act on the perceived consequences of our actions, and if we think those are good, pursue them.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Post by derangedHorse »

overgard wrote: post #350
password54321 wrote: post #301

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Technology is what you make of it. If you want to make it your best friend and your only friend, that's your choice. But I would guess more people would use it as a personal tutor. If it works as well as the demo, this already crushes most language learning apps. Actually the only apps for learning language that it would fail to replace would still be Tandem and HelloTalk because it still can't replicate the nuance o…

"Blame the individual" doesn't really make sense when we're talking about things that have a society-wide impact. As an analogue, personally I'm not on social media, but I am affected by social media because everyone around me is on social media and their happiness and wellbeing also impacts me. AI companies need to stop pretending they can just outsource responsibility for their products. I think assuming people wil…

So you want to blame a company for the impact others have on you because those said others choose to consume their product?
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