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Re: Cloudflare Drop

#51
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every new feature they've launched recently can be used to make the web more dangerous for everyone except those who use Cloudflare.

How would this make the web more dangerous? Its just static file hosting. Already wildly available!

phishing

Re: Cloudflare Drop

#52
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every new feature they've launched recently can be used to make the web more dangerous for everyone except those who use Cloudflare.

How would this make the web more dangerous? Its just static file hosting. Already wildly available!

The argument would be that they sell the kevlar and the guns

Kevlar:

https://developers.cloudflare.com/bots/ https://www.cloudflare.com/products/turnstile/

Guns:

https://support.cloudflarewarp.com/

To be fair, CF mainly develops defensive cybersecurity products, the extent to which their tools might be used maliciously is pretty on par with other regular tools.

But, it just has bad optics and potential COI/Racketeering when CF is at both sides of the counter.

To be explicit, in case it isn't obvious,Cloudflare emerged as a DDoS protection company, detecting attacks from distributed sources is part of the raison d'etre, and domains and IP addresses are a key part of that infrastructure.

By subletting their own IP addresses for navigation with warp, and their own domains for hosting of webcontent with subdomain hosting, they are providing pooled anonimity for their customers, which is precisely what makes it very hard for defenders on the other side to implement foundational security measures like IP bans, or IP block bans, or domain bans, or Whois/RDAP domain analysis.

Re: Cloudflare Drop

#53
post #23

It would be nice if we could see some information such as file size limitations, demos, link structure, management, etc. Am I expected to upload a random HTML file and see how it works?

Yep, I chucked it a file on my desktop: index.html present Max individual file size 25MB Total file count <2000 Total size less than 100MB

Re: Cloudflare Drop

#54
post #23

It would be nice if we could see some information such as file size limitations, demos, link structure, management, etc. Am I expected to upload a random HTML file and see how it works?

Yeah I'm very lost on what this is supposed to do -- "Summon your site" is quite vague. "see it live", like a demo? or is this actually published somewhere? Is it forever?

Desktop mode doesn't show any more information either

Re: Cloudflare Drop

#56
post #11

Tried uploading a ZIP and got: "Something went wrong An unexpected error occurred. Please try again or contact support."

When contacting support:

"Please upload a screenshot of the error by dragging a zip of the png file."

Re: Cloudflare Drop

#57
post #42

Wow the people in this thread are a huge bummer. This is much cooler and I doubt this is a real safety issue. You can already sign up for a free cloudflare account and deploy it for free, on your own, on a free workers.dev domain. The friction removal here isn't going to meaningfully change the security / amount of malicious content.

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Re: Cloudflare Drop

#58
post #21

Cloudflare is really good at launching features that facility low-friction deployment of malicious content (such as phishing) on the Internet, piggybacking on their hosting reputation and the fact that you can't easily block their ASN or domains.

Cloudflare is also like a Chinese copycat machine. They mostly copy some successful project and sell it at cheap price.

Re: Cloudflare Drop

#59
post #42

Wow the people in this thread are a huge bummer. This is much cooler and I doubt this is a real safety issue. You can already sign up for a free cloudflare account and deploy it for free, on your own, on a free workers.dev domain. The friction removal here isn't going to meaningfully change the security / amount of malicious content.

Agreed I think this is pretty solid especially since you get all the Cloudflare benefits like CDN from the get-go.
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