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Re: GPT‑Live

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(Atty from OpenAI here) GPT-Live does not support video at this point, but we're working hard to introduce it soon. In the meantime, our previous Advanced Voice Mode will continue to be available and supports video.

Thanks for the reply, Atty. So I guess I'm holding it wrong? For some reason, I can't use the camera while in Live mode. The only option I see is the plus item, which does show the camera, but when I open it up and ask "Are you seeing my camera?" it will always say no and recommend me to open it. Feels like the official camera icon does not show up for me? iPhone 13, ChatGPT Pro subscription.

Ah yes — the camera icon is to take a photo, not to show the model video in real-time. Try taking the photo and uploading it! If you're having trouble, please share a screenshot and the build number (Settings > About) with me via email at atty@openai.com.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Many older people are very lonely. This could help a lot of people.

I'm not convinced wireheading the elderly is a good solution to their loneliness.

It doesn't have to be good. It just has to be better. What we do now is completely abandon and ignore most seniors. The bar is low.

Don't like it? What's your better solution? Are you going to do it?

Re: GPT‑Live

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Many older people are very lonely. This could help a lot of people.

I'm not convinced wireheading the elderly is a good solution to their loneliness.

If you have any ideas now's the time, this has been an unsolved problem for hundreds of years.

Re: GPT‑Live

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I have built a few voice based integrations into my applications that use these live agents (gpt and gemini), but they are always too expensive to be viable. I have to end up hacking up context and turning on and off in ways that are very fragile. It'll end up being $2-5 for about the 30ish minute sessions I typically end up with, and it throws the price of the product I'm making completely out of whack.

Re: GPT‑Live

#346

This is the opposite direction AI should be going. Human relationships are the most valuable thing we have, and so, naturally, technology seeks to intermediate and now replace them. I'm not Catholic, but this podcast presents a very interesting argument against talking to AI as if they were human: https://newpolity.com/podcasts-hub/debate-chatbots

> This is the opposite direction AI should be going. There is no moral obligation, in any domain, to refuse to make a product that adults, with full informed consent, find useful and purchase. Who are you to say you know better than the market?

Markets only work in well-regulated environments, this has been known since forever (Adam Smith).

There is no meaningful competition in a marathon if I can drive you over with a car at the first 100m.

And thanks fkin God that we have regulations and meaningful laws and some asshole for-profit company can't just put drugs into food.. the "informed buyer" is bullshit. Humans are faulty, and there is a billion dollar industry meant to take advantage of said faults: it's called marketing.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Oh, god. They are marketing it as an old people artificial friend. Probably will blame users in the future when they get attached and have ai-induced psychosis. Disgraceful. On the technological side, it's a marvel!

Many older people are very lonely. This could help a lot of people.

That's kind of like the joke about MAID solving the Canadian healthcare problems: I've heard you're ill; have you considered dying?

Re: GPT‑Live

#348

This is the opposite direction AI should be going. Human relationships are the most valuable thing we have, and so, naturally, technology seeks to intermediate and now replace them. I'm not Catholic, but this podcast presents a very interesting argument against talking to AI as if they were human: https://newpolity.com/podcasts-hub/debate-chatbots

Regardless how natural AI becomes I’ve yet to replace any human relationships. Where do you see the aim of technology as trying to replace people? You might be using it wrong.

Re: GPT‑Live

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Hey! Bit of an unusual question maybe: if this stuff further exarcerbates the loneliness epidemic and atomization of society, will you be able to live with yourself you think? If you hear about teenagers only spending time with your chatbot in 5 years, will you feel some amount of personal responsibility or not? Always curious to hear you guys' perspective on that kind of stuff!

Technology is what you make of it. If you want to make it your best friend and your only friend, that's your choice. But I would guess more people would use it as a personal tutor. If it works as well as the demo, this already crushes most language learning apps. Actually the only apps for learning language that it would fail to replace would still be Tandem and HelloTalk because it still can't replicate the nuance o…

"Blame the individual" doesn't really make sense when we're talking about things that have a society-wide impact. As an analogue, personally I'm not on social media, but I am affected by social media because everyone around me is on social media and their happiness and wellbeing also impacts me. AI companies need to stop pretending they can just outsource responsibility for their products.

I think assuming people will use it as a tutor/learning tool is.. way too optimistic. A small fraction will, but the majority will just view things like a second language as something not worth learning.

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