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Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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> achieves 76.6% on R2R-CE (Room-to-Room in Continuous Environments) I would like to know what it did the other 23.4% of the time!

Random, horrendous and indiscriminate killing! [/joke]

NEWWWWW ACHIEVEMENT

Made a comment that needed an additional tag because the joke might be getting a little too real in the near future

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Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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I'm impressed, because it is so minimalistic.

On the other hand it reminds me of 2010ish robotic demo videos from academic researchers and willow garage.

Problem with robotics is usually that it's easy to produce a good-enough looking demo, but it's really hard to make somethin work in the general case. As exemplified by autonomous driving.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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Please oh please try to make Kärcher adopt your stuff. Even their latest premium cleaning bots are hopeless when they don't know where they are, even when I tell them where they are. Or, I don't know, make your own vacuums.

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This is Mistral though. I assume the model can be run locally.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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It's implied, and I'm hoping it's true, that this is a map-less navigation. Which is impressive. This kind of task is much easier if you have a pre-captured map of the environment, but if they are doing this without a map it's great. Historically you were always faced with "The Kidnapped Robot" problem where robots that didn't know where they were couldn't navigate even a little bit. Here the robot appears to be able…

I am working in Mistral robotics team. I confirm this is map-less. The only inputs are the text prompt and the front camera rgb image.

Could you please open source this or a 4B version? I’ve been messing around w hooking up vllms to cheap robots and skipping the whole ROS stack and this would be an absolute delight to play with

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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That is so awesome. I wish I had that 11 years ago during my Microsoft Research Internship. I had a NAO robot (from another great French company) and it walked to employees to motivate them to do some movements. To prevent long term injuries from being in the same position for too long. It had a visual compass but it didn't work. And just telling to "walk straight" clearly didn't work :D Here is the video in case someone is curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZkmNqpJCcM&t=190s (and the paper: https://brandstetter.io/papers/Fidgebot_Working_Out_while_Wo...)

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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This is Mistral though. I assume the model can be run locally.

So the vacuum cleaner manufacturer would just require customers to install mistral on their local LLM hostbox? Or maybe they'd sell you a host to go with it you couldn't get into and honest cross fingers we aren't peeking!

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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I am working in Mistral robotics team. I confirm this is map-less. The only inputs are the text prompt and the front camera rgb image.

Nice! Thanks for confirming. If the last instruction is 'go back to where you started' does it work?

Yes, it would work.

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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The General Models' business-model is also looking more weak every iteration. Costs of simple tasks grow extensively: OCR with "Mistral OCR" at $4 per 1000 pages vs OCR with Opus 4.8 at sometimes¹ $1 per "page". Or just the immense costs when burning tokens in an unoptimized agentic coding environment costing tens of dollars for a few simple classes or functions versus a highly optimized "autocomplete" model costing…

the counter point is that building or selecting the specialized model may cost as much as the lifetime inference costs of the task with the specialized model. If I need to pay someone 300k to make the model and infrastructure... then I would need to process many documents to recoup my OCR costs compared to asking claude code nicely. Perhaps the model zoo is becoming good enough that the cost to find a specialized mod…

Sure, but things like "OCR tool" or "agentic calendar assistant" or "agentic interface to CAD" don't feel like things I'd need pay 300k to build out custom infrastructure for, they feel like something lots of people/companies would rather pay an appropriate-sized subscription to a model optimized for that use case rather than burn ludicrous amounts on generalist models optimized for burning as many tokens as possible reasoning about how to update a calendar from first principles.

I mean, I also I think the "agentic calendar assistant" is more likely to come out of the Valley than Europe[1] and that the big AI startups will buy some of the niche AI startups gaining traction in strategic markets, but there are lots of niches that notionally benefit from transformer-based models

[1]probably a calendar assistant with a ludicrously inflated valuation based mostly on the assumption that Google/Meta/Anthropic will buy them to shut them down three years later...

Re: Mistral's Robostral Navigate: a state of the art robotics navigation model

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This is Mistral though. I assume the model can be run locally.

So the vacuum cleaner manufacturer would just require customers to install mistral on their local LLM hostbox? Or maybe they'd sell you a host to go with it you couldn't get into and honest cross fingers we aren't peeking!

It is an 8B model… so, I guess it probably couldn’t run directly on most existing vacuum robots, but it could be reasonable this decade, right?

I wish we lived in the alternate universe where everybody has a home server that could run this sort of thing.

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