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Post by WarmWash »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #224

Much better than it was before but it’s still significantly weaker than a direct chat. For example I asked “Why should LLM attention use dot product instead of cosine similarity, being that we often hear vector magnitude does not encode most of the useful information needed”? The voice response was directionally right but lacked detail and was a little hand wavy. The answer to the same question in a text chat was muc…

I would naturally assume they cut the background thinking level to the minimum. It's a halting problem question and with in text 5.5 with max thinking will chew on a question for 5-10 minutes sometimes. That would make a pretty awkward conversation.

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Post by logicchains »

domga wrote: post #299
andai wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are still lots of social people. I found a lot of people actually do want to talk but are just shy. I spent a few weeks at a hostel last year. It was always kind of depressing and tense in the shared kitchen, just this heavy silence. I don't feel comfortable around strangers, so I solved that problem by just saying hi to everyone. Most people didn't respond much, although most of them smiled and the tension was…

This is an individual solution to a systemic problem. On a personal level, it is possible to solve such problems, but generally no, the ship has sailed quite some time ago (I personally think cars are to blame). Even if you do it, you are still swimming against the current.

>This is an individual solution to a systemic problem. On a personal level, it is possible to solve such problems

I.e. it's only a problem if you're not willing to go and strike up conversations with people. Which is not AI or mobile phones' fault. Expecting society to come up with "systemic situations" to your personal problems is a fast path to a lifetime of disappointment.

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Post by goshx »

cj wrote: post #210
artdigital wrote: post #25

What I’m missing from this announcement is the capability to use connectors and tools. I don’t really get it - NONE of the frontier assistants can use tools / connectors while in voice mode - Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok. It seems so obvious: I want to be able to research stuff, pull up documents, jot down notes and do productive work while I’m talking to it, and not end voice mode whenever I need to connect to an a…

There's a tiktok of Sam Altman reacting to a viral clip of someone using Voice to time themselves on a mile run (it hilariously failed). Sam's reaction was "Yea, it doesn't have access to tools like a timer. It's a known issue. Should be coming in about a year" Edit: here's the clip: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Py2YgJe8fqQ

It does now with this new model.

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Post by bodash »

jonstaab wrote: post #76

This is the opposite direction AI should be going. Human relationships are the most valuable thing we have, and so, naturally, technology seeks to intermediate and now replace them. I'm not Catholic, but this podcast presents a very interesting argument against talking to AI as if they were human: https://newpolity.com/podcasts-hub/debate-chatbots

I’m completely on your side, but also I think about all the AI saturations in the society like this:

“Driving to work or running a 10km on the weekend sharing the same surface goal: from A to B.

You may have less autonomy whether you should drive to work, but you definitely have more decision power about whether to go for that run or not”

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Post by motoboi »

Oh, god. They are marketing it as an old people artificial friend. Probably will blame users in the future when they get attached and have ai-induced psychosis.

Disgraceful.

On the technological side, it's a marvel!

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Post by franky47 »

The live translation demo reminds me of the Babel Fish in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. This could be very valuable to have in your headphones while travelling.

Not super impressed by the model constantly interrupting the user in the other demos though.

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Post by iknowstuff »

Martinussen wrote: post #279

This voice is awful , possibly one of the worst AI/computer voices I have heard in like two years now - what's up with that? Is this seriously the best a company burning this much money can do, and they consider this acceptable to release? Like two syllables in and my first response was to grimace and physically cringe. Does anyone here think this sounds good, or even just "fine enough"? Do engineers that work on thi…

There's like 10 voices to choose from.

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Post by cactusplant7374 »

motoboi wrote: post #315

Oh, god. They are marketing it as an old people artificial friend. Probably will blame users in the future when they get attached and have ai-induced psychosis. Disgraceful. On the technological side, it's a marvel!

Many older people are very lonely. This could help a lot of people.

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Post by 100ms »

100ms wrote: post #146
Someone1234 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I too found this with their previous attempts. I have my Chat personality settings stripped right down to no-fluff. I'd want voice to be more akin to the Star Trek computer, and less akin to as you said an AI friend, but previously it was tuned too personable/friend-like.

Star Trek computer voice model is something I have yet to encounter, and I've looked repeatedly :) It's not about a specific voice, it's the fact they managed to capture "I am a utility" perfectly in the voice. Our modern friends do not want to be thought of as a utility, but to engender trust and agency all of their own and that's a huge problem for me.

I thought to try voice cloning with dots.tts ( https://huggingface.co/spaces/rednote-hilab/dots.tts ), the result is pretty good, but likely wouldn't be fast enough to use on a quasi-realtime basis:

Input clip: https://vocaroo.com/19QtEPtwTjOS

Prompt text: There are 14 varieties of tomato soup available from this replicator. With rice, with vegetables, Bolian style, with pasta specify hot or chilled.

Output: https://vocaroo.com/1f3XuQQoSzwB

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Post by barnacs »

This is getting way too dystopian for my taste. People in the know need to stop pushing the narrative that this is somehow anything more than statistical autocomplete.
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