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EU now one step away from reviving private message scanning rules
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Re: EU now one step away from reviving private message scanning rules
#82When is it coming online? I have seen so many of these headlines that I feel it's always about to kick in, but I never get any closure.
Had expired in April. This is a tentative of bringing it back up even though it expired after a number of previous extensions.
Re: EU now one step away from reviving private message scanning rules
#83Tough week for euros. Cars that record your face while driving and now apps snooping on communications.
Perhaps in the future cars will not only record your face but also listen in for hate speech. Most cars have SOS and GPS modules so calling the police if someone in the car shouts a slur is just connecting some code together.
The car’s computer voice:
John Spartan you are fined one credit for a violation of the verbal morality code!
Re: EU now one step away from reviving private message scanning rules
#84Tough week for euros. Cars that record your face while driving and now apps snooping on communications.
Perhaps in the future cars will not only record your face but also listen in for hate speech. Most cars have SOS and GPS modules so calling the police if someone in the car shouts a slur is just connecting some code together.
I think this should go one step further. If you don't praise the magnificence of your local EU politicians then your car's breaks will stop working and an electric shot will be administered to everyone presently in the car. That will satisfy EU-rocrats.
The coming revolution will be well deserved I think.
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#85I don't understand the EU's position on privacy. On the one hand, they enacted GDPR to give you control over access to your personal data. On the other, they need access to all of your data.
The unquestioned view in certain circles - including here - is that when the EU/UK does something that chips away at people's online privacy, there's un ulterior motive. It's entirely possible that politicians just want to do something about CSAM and young people having their mind twisted by social media. The electorate do seem to be keen on some sort of action.
>It's entirely possible that politicians just want to do something about CSAM
except that honest-to-God child rapists get extremely lenient sentences in Western Europe and rarely (if ever) get deported afterwards.
Re: EU now one step away from reviving private message scanning rules
#86I don't understand the EU's position on privacy. On the one hand, they enacted GDPR to give you control over access to your personal data. On the other, they need access to all of your data.
The thing is that according to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights privacy and the right to private communication is a basic human right. And GDPR was literally enacted to enforce this human right.
Now one basic principle of democracy is that supreme courts are superior to the people in power. Someone needs to watch the lawmakers so to say. Because it could actually be that the European commission enacts laws that are illegal. And Chat Control 2.0 could actually be illegal because it violates the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. However, somebody has to take them to The Court of Justice of the European Union to test it.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, it is mostly a reaction to how society has evolved, for the worse. Rock and hard place. The worst thing I have to hide is knowledge about my intentions, none of which are bad/illegal/immoral. Scan away, I'd rather try to protect my children, other children from unscrupulous characters.
> The worst thing I have to hide is knowledge about my intentions, none of which are bad/illegal/immoral. Correction: None of which are bad/illegal/immoral _right now_. The "I have nothing to hide" crowd will surely change their tune the moment any of their data starts to be used against them.
It is being used against me, but not my governments, by private enterprises :)
Re: EU now one step away from reviving private message scanning rules
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
The existing mechanisms are inadequate or not fit for 2026. Hence this discussion. You are agreeing with me :)
> You are agreeing with me :) i am absolutely not :) you want to provide unfettered warrantless access to all of your communications. ive been fighting against that sort of thing for approaching 40 years now.
> have access to mechanisms to remove privacy from people suspected of being a pedophile
I don't understand that part then. You can't break open E2EE by willing it open.
Right now, if I wanted a new account, I walk into any supermarket, spend a quid, and I've got a burner, with WhatsApp.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
We are not required to pick amongst evils. We could, in fact, say private chats are private and end to end encryption is sacrosanct .
If you are purist and you don't live in the real world with real evils. I don't want pedophiles to have privacy.
After Epstein, Hollywood and decades earlier Dutroux, you'd think people like you would have wizened.
For fuck's sake, my country's entire media/intellectual class protected an avowed and even boasting pedophile during his entire life! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Matzneff
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You are agreeing with me :) i am absolutely not :) you want to provide unfettered warrantless access to all of your communications. ive been fighting against that sort of thing for approaching 40 years now.
> have access to mechanisms to remove privacy from people suspected of being a pedophile I don't understand that part then. You can't break open E2EE by willing it open. Right now, if I wanted a new account, I walk into any supermarket, spend a quid, and I've got a burner, with WhatsApp.
>I don't understand that part then. You can't break open E2EE by willing it open.
the mechanism to remove privacy from suspects is typically called a warrant.
(end-to-end encryption does not matter if you possess one of the ends)