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Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by red-iron-pine »

kjellsbells wrote: post #5

Cuts two ways. Why should I pay $200 for a BigBrand dog bed if this knockoff site shows SHRDLU has the same thing for $40? We all know that BigBrand gets it from the same supplier. The real knockoff problem I see is that you buy what you think is BigBrand and get shipped Knockoff because someone is mingling inventory.

> Cuts two ways. Why should I pay $200 for a BigBrand dog bed if this knockoff site shows SHRDLU has the same thing for $40? We all know that BigBrand gets it from the same supplier.

in many cases may even be from the same factory made by the same hands with a slightly different supplier or quality of fabric, or lower QA.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by red-iron-pine »

paxys wrote: post #85
kjellsbells wrote: post #5

Cuts two ways. Why should I pay $200 for a BigBrand dog bed if this knockoff site shows SHRDLU has the same thing for $40? We all know that BigBrand gets it from the same supplier. The real knockoff problem I see is that you buy what you think is BigBrand and get shipped Knockoff because someone is mingling inventory.

“Knockoffs” can be of many different types: - Coming from the same factory line with the same quality control, just rebranded (Costco famously does this a lot) - Factory seconds, goods with very minor defects (sometimes not even in the product itself but in the box etc) - Manufacturers copying specs and running illicit production lines without the company’s authorization - Complete knockoffs, where the external desig…

> Coming from the same factory line with the same quality control, just rebranded (Costco famously does this a lot)

Costco famously shops around aggressively for quality products -- not premium, but not crap -- and usually from big manufacturers who are already making excess supply.

Is common for supermarkets, too. Kraft can only get sub-par cheese one quarter so they make the same product but sell it as a white label option for lower margin. The factory line keeps running, product gets moved, inventory gets cleared, and margin is slightly lower but acceptable.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by pogue »

chris-mosley wrote: post #259
pogue wrote: post #256

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I think you're going to have to standardize what you consider to be knock offs and what's not, or you're going to end up in continuous quagmires like this trying to make a determination based on vibes. You might even end up getting together a team of volunteers to look through them or it'll probably get overwhelming. What determination did you use to make the original list?

So the original list is very specifically about no-name dropshippers. I very specifically state in the readme that the list isn't a measure of quality. So in the case where this guy is 3D printing stuff and selling it. That's good enough for the list if he's been doing it long enough. But looking at the details of this one, he's dabbled in crypto. He apparently sold crystal tubes... So like he sorta feels like he mig…

How did you determine who was a no name drop shipper though? Based on what criteria?

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by nondrool »

chris-mosley wrote: post #259
pogue wrote: post #256

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I think you're going to have to standardize what you consider to be knock offs and what's not, or you're going to end up in continuous quagmires like this trying to make a determination based on vibes. You might even end up getting together a team of volunteers to look through them or it'll probably get overwhelming. What determination did you use to make the original list?

So the original list is very specifically about no-name dropshippers. I very specifically state in the readme that the list isn't a measure of quality. So in the case where this guy is 3D printing stuff and selling it. That's good enough for the list if he's been doing it long enough. But looking at the details of this one, he's dabbled in crypto. He apparently sold crystal tubes... So like he sorta feels like he mig…

Well, he closed the pull request himself I guess. Know it doesn't matter, but I say it's printed personally.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by ssl-3 »

otikik wrote: post #260
ssl-3 wrote: post #258

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I saw what I saw. If there are more burritos in the future, then: I eagerly await Episode 2: One More Burrito [from last week's funky leftovers]

He says it right after returning from the store. Like "I bought this bag of 12 tortillas, I only need one for this burrito, obviously I would be using the rest for other things".

Sure. Tortillas can indeed last for quite a long time without any particular extra effort. Those 11 unused tortillas account for $4.39. We'll take that off of the total.

The cost of the singular burrito has now been reduced to ~$30, which still seems rather expensive.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by [deleted] »

runjake wrote: post #228
chris-mosley wrote: post #129

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AmazonBrandFilter dev here. Yeah. I don't know. I don't love that they're just ripping the list like that, I wouldn't mind as much if they at least helped contribute to the list. That is far and away the hardest part of this thing. But it is what it is, I'll be more peeved if they monetize it (which I'm unsure if they're doing). Maybe I should put one of those buy me a coffee links on the repo, I'd probably be better…

They acknowledge your project under the "Prior art" section of their README.md and the list is MIT licensed. Seems fine to me? Great original idea, BTW. Wish I had known about your extension prior!

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Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by torstenvl »

john_strinlai wrote: post #255
torstenvl wrote: post #246

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Don't do this here.

i will express my opinion when i want to, thanks though. if you have a particular issue, email dang and he can swing by and reprimand me. although i would find that weird, considering me and the other participant continued our conversation on just fine.

And I will continue to voice community standards on the community forum. I don't have the power to [dead] your post, but I do have the power to express my disapproval of your violations of the community guidelines.

You made it personal ("I'm not your dad") and you were condescending ("a sad comment"). That behavior is ugly and it doesn't belong on HN.

I have an interest in maintaining HN as a place where intellectually curious people of good faith engage in conversation, including with people they disagree with. I will continue to advocate for HN to remain such a space, and that includes objecting to behavior that tends to undermine that goal.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by john_strinlai »

torstenvl wrote: post #267
john_strinlai wrote: post #255

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i will express my opinion when i want to, thanks though. if you have a particular issue, email dang and he can swing by and reprimand me. although i would find that weird, considering me and the other participant continued our conversation on just fine.

And I will continue to voice community standards on the community forum. I don't have the power to [dead] your post, but I do have the power to express my disapproval of your violations of the community guidelines. You made it personal ("I'm not your dad") and you were condescending ("a sad comment"). That behavior is ugly and it doesn't belong on HN. I have an interest in maintaining HN as a place where intellectual…

great, we're in agreement then. i'll do me, and you do you.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by tptacek »

inetknght wrote: post #202
jcranmer wrote: post #197

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> My Chipotle meal cost $17 yesterday. It used to cost $8. [...] make my Chipotle meal $8 again or double my salary I don't know what the date brackets are for your meal ranges there, but the largest component of the price increases in things like takeout meals over the past few years has in fact been wage increases for low-wage workers like the people making your Chipotle meal. In other words, it's more expensive be…

That's a great excuse. Meanwhile, there are billionaires whose investment incomes could pay those salaries many times over. Where do those investment incomes come from? Ahh, yes. Profits.

This is the problem with populism; it's thought-terminating. Do the math on this. Liquidate a mega-billionaire to cover Chipotle's payroll. What happens next year?
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