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EU now one step away from reviving private message scanning rules

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Re: EU now one step away from reviving private message scanning rules

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Post by munk-a »

pton_xd wrote: post #17

I don't understand the EU's position on privacy. On the one hand, they enacted GDPR to give you control over access to your personal data. On the other, they need access to all of your data.

The EU's position on privacy seems pretty consistent to me - they're against your data being monetized by private entities but not against building governmental tools to monitor private entities.

In good faith this could be summarized as "Personal data should be used for public safety but not for profit" - but that philosophy is definitely a strong contrast with the basic American philosophy towards civil liberties.

Re: EU now one step away from reviving private message scanning rules

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Post by mhitza »

pton_xd wrote: post #17

I don't understand the EU's position on privacy. On the one hand, they enacted GDPR to give you control over access to your personal data. On the other, they need access to all of your data.

Maybe big tech weren't good a lobbying bureaucrats against GDPR but got better at lobbying in the EU for this. There's also been a slight shift towards authoritarianism in the last decade, which naturally love the possibilities of stricter communication control.

Children protection and russian propaganda are the tried and tested covers at enforcing age verification, message scanning, and probably any future pan-european surveillance network.

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Post by JoshTriplett »

pton_xd wrote: post #17

I don't understand the EU's position on privacy. On the one hand, they enacted GDPR to give you control over access to your personal data. On the other, they need access to all of your data.

I think the position can best be approximated as "companies should not be able to do this, but you should trust your government to do this to you". (That's a bad position that needs to be defeated every time it arises, but it's a consistent position.)

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

yubblegum wrote: post #18
artisinal wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps in the future cars will not only record your face but also listen in for hate speech. Most cars have SOS and GPS modules so calling the police if someone in the car shouts a slur is just connecting some code together.

Why do you think this is only going to be in Europe? This will be the global norm modulo some astroid hitting earth or civilizational crash. The trajectory is crystal clear: access to information (AI), control over personal finance (CBDC), privacy of personal communications (handful of big tech MITM in everything), metered social interactions (today China, tomorrow the world over).

You say that like it’s a bad fnord

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Post by inigyou »

pton_xd wrote: post #17

I don't understand the EU's position on privacy. On the one hand, they enacted GDPR to give you control over access to your personal data. On the other, they need access to all of your data.

The one that passed doesn't give them access to anything. It is different from the scary one.

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Post by artisinal »

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #15
Z0rp wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Car could also become judge and executioner. Swift justice is just one curve away

Drive you straight to prison

It is cheaper for the government to just lock the car doors for the length of your sentence. Saves them space in prison. You are allowed to use the McDrive twice a day. The windows will drop 8 centimeters, enough for a Big Mac.

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Post by sscaryterry »

PowerElectronix wrote: post #4

Tough week for euros. Cars that record your face while driving and now apps snooping on communications.

Honestly, it is mostly a reaction to how society has evolved, for the worse. Rock and hard place.

The worst thing I have to hide is knowledge about my intentions, none of which are bad/illegal/immoral.

Scan away, I'd rather try to protect my children, other children from unscrupulous characters.

Re: EU now one step away from reviving private message scanning rules

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Post by sscaryterry »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #23
pton_xd wrote: post #17

I don't understand the EU's position on privacy. On the one hand, they enacted GDPR to give you control over access to your personal data. On the other, they need access to all of your data.

I think the position can best be approximated as "companies should not be able to do this, but you should trust your government to do this to you". (That's a bad position that needs to be defeated every time it arises, but it's a consistent position.)

Given the choice of trust between, lets say Amazon/Meta/Google and the EU (or some European government), 9 times out of 10, the EU is the lesser evil.
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