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Chatto is now open source

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This is cool. Will try out soon.

Love that the way you said the rhymes part 'rhymes with “knack”, or the one that rhymes with “beams”, or the one that rhymes with “this gourd”'.

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I’ve known Hendrik for years, and he is one of the most talented developers I’ve ever met. I’m confident this project will become successful very quickly. Beyond the project itself, what fascinates me most is how he single-handedly developed it by leveraging agentic coding.

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These kind of comments just spike the conversation and leave no room for nuanced opinions or discussion.

A lot of garbage is also being produced and a lot of people have to clean it up, right? Hopefully that’s not too controversial of statement?

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Are you sure you read that here? I came back yesterday after a hiatus and I’ve been dismayed how many posts are just “yeah, I just run Claude all day” without a hint of embarrassment or shame.

I run Claude all day, and produced some good shit, but I'll admit to being thoroughly embarrassed that I haven't looked at it all, won't make it public, won't put my name on it, won't pick a license. I'm depressed about the whole thing and might take it up with a therapist.

My eyes are still rolling from GP's comment:

> he single-handedly developed it by leveraging agentic coding

Re: Chatto is now open source

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don't forget "where are all these beautiful apps that supposedly everybody vibe codes now?"

Who says this? "Beautiful" vibecoded apps are a dime a dozen. Getting support or continued feature development for those beautiful apps after the developer's AIDHD moves on to their next half-baked idea is usually the differentiator between a good vibecoded app and a bad one.

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> But I read here every day that agents can't code. And that "real developers" spend more time fixing AI bugs than producing code, and it slows them down. This is all correct, though. I haven't tried this, but I can guarantee it's a buggy, incoherent mess, same as every other vibe coded app I've ever tried, no exceptions.

Yeah, the crap I vibe coded is buggy as hell too. It takes a lot of tokens and time to polish my agentic turds.

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> But I read here every day that agents can't code. And that "real developers" spend more time fixing AI bugs than producing code, and it slows them down. This is all correct, though. I haven't tried this, but I can guarantee it's a buggy, incoherent mess, same as every other vibe coded app I've ever tried, no exceptions.

Yeah, the crap I vibe coded is buggy as hell too. It takes a lot of tokens and time to polish my agentic turds.

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#68
The fundamental problem with replacing Slack is network effects. Your coworkers and customers already use Slack. It works well enough.

You can choose to switch your company away, maybe, but what do you do when vendors want to connect over Slack?

Imagine if email was owned by a company?

Edit:

W̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶o̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶t̶o̶c̶o̶l̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶u̶i̶l̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶.̶

We really need an open protocol to win here.

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post #9

I’ve known Hendrik for years, and he is one of the most talented developers I’ve ever met. I’m confident this project will become successful very quickly. Beyond the project itself, what fascinates me most is how he single-handedly developed it by leveraging agentic coding.

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It took him a year to build. So yeah, obviously if someone spends a year working on something with an LLM they can produce a good product.

The slop we're seeing from people using AI is because they pump it out in a month or two and then call it a day.

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#70

The fundamental problem with replacing Slack is network effects. Your coworkers and customers already use Slack. It works well enough. You can choose to switch your company away, maybe, but what do you do when vendors want to connect over Slack? Imagine if email was owned by a company? Edit: W̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶n̶e̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶o̶p̶e̶n̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶t̶o̶c̶o̶l̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶u̶i̶l̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶.̶ We really need an open protocol to win…

XMPP exists…
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