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Re: Chatto is now open source

#51

Congrats for open sourcing it, looks interesting! How does this compare to fluxer.gg though? The part that I really liked about chatto is that it seems to be made very easily to self host which is something that I really appreciate actually.

I have been patiently waiting for fluxer, but honestly I just want to self host and have it available and fluxer has been sitting on that for a while

Re: Chatto is now open source

#52
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I’ve known Hendrik for years, and he is one of the most talented developers I’ve ever met. I’m confident this project will become successful very quickly. Beyond the project itself, what fascinates me most is how he single-handedly developed it by leveraging agentic coding.

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don't forget "where are all these beautiful apps that supposedly everybody vibe codes now?"

Re: Chatto is now open source

#54

Very cool. I don't usually get excited for new chat apps, but I like the idea of having one frontend for multiple servers instead of pushing hard on p2p or federation. I do also still like irc, but haven't used it much in recent years because most of the people I talk to are using discord now.

One front-end for multiple servers is how you end up reimplementing XMPP (bar federation) before you know it: servers are not guaranteed to run identical/compatible versions -> you bake versioning at capability level in the protocol -> you make clients and servers degrade predictably when that happens -> you write a standard to document it formally -> you invite around the table those authors of alternative client and server implementers and boom, you've got the X in XMPP, and the XEP standardisation process and the XSF to support it.

Re: Chatto is now open source

#56

Congrats for open sourcing it, looks interesting! How does this compare to fluxer.gg though? The part that I really liked about chatto is that it seems to be made very easily to self host which is something that I really appreciate actually.

I have been patiently waiting for fluxer, but honestly I just want to self host and have it available and fluxer has been sitting on that for a while

I'm the developer behind Fluxer – self-hosting is ready to use already [1][2][3], people are using it actively currently, and I'm currently working to make account switching across instances in the desktop app a reality. This, with a big voice update around the corner, will let us move much faster moving forward!

[1]: https://fluxer.app/blog/mobile-clients-and-fluxer-v2

[2]: https://docs.fluxer.app/operator/get-started/

[3]: https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer

Re: Chatto is now open source

#57
post #9

I’ve known Hendrik for years, and he is one of the most talented developers I’ve ever met. I’m confident this project will become successful very quickly. Beyond the project itself, what fascinates me most is how he single-handedly developed it by leveraging agentic coding.

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> But I read here every day that agents can't code. And that "real developers" spend more time fixing AI bugs than producing code, and it slows them down.

This is all correct, though. I haven't tried this, but I can guarantee it's a buggy, incoherent mess, same as every other vibe coded app I've ever tried, no exceptions.

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