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SWE-1.7 Reach Near GPT 5.5 and Opus Intelligence

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Re: SWE-1.7 Reach Near GPT 5.5 and Opus Intelligence

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Is this open source? I can't find a link to download the weights.

It's based on an open weight model (Kimi 2.7) so shouldn't it also be open weight?

There is no obligation to do that. I think the landscape would be very different now if one of the big labs had released an earlier “frontier” model under copyleft that requires sharing fine tunes. I hope it still happens.

Re: SWE-1.7 Reach Near GPT 5.5 and Opus Intelligence

#32

A company whose first demo was completely fraudulent announces that its model beats GPT-5.5, on its own benchmark? I’m gonna wait a little before I trust this. This whole company seems to optimize for raising money and impressing VCs. Lying about their products, ignoring consumer market to target enterprise, bragging about how they work their employees like slaves, and writing these posts full of intimidating technic…

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Re: SWE-1.7 Reach Near GPT 5.5 and Opus Intelligence

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all the open source models are a waste of time relative to the bleeding edge from openai/anthropic

At work I wouldn't want to use anything else. Compared to my salary a Claude subscription (or two) is cheap For hobby projects I've completely switched to DeepSeek v4 pro. I spend less than on a $10 Claude plan and am not subjected to quota limits (when I have time and motivation, the last thing I want is a 5 hour quota running out). And the difference in model performance is fine for those smaller projects, most of…

ive just got better things to do with my life than fuss with an inferior model. its like why hire a dumb employee over a smart one

Re: SWE-1.7 Reach Near GPT 5.5 and Opus Intelligence

#36
post #4

These models are never as good, the benchmarks dont tell the full story

The reality is most people building their own models and providing that alongside SOTA ones don't really care about how great these models are. They just prove that 'hey we are smart enough to build our own models so you can trust us instead of going with a single provider like Claude via Claude Code', also a cheap alternative for cost sensitive/free users - at least this was the case for Windsurf, not sure if Devin Desktop still has that tier. They just need to hillclimb the benchmarks and show something reasonable enough there.

Re: SWE-1.7 Reach Near GPT 5.5 and Opus Intelligence

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all the open source models are a waste of time relative to the bleeding edge from openai/anthropic

Not true since a few months, genuinely try GLM 5.2 and Minimax M3, especially in adversarial/gating... as a general model, I can agree, but as a coding model, they are not bad, comparable to maybe Opus 4.5 in real usage which is quite impressive.

yeah but why waste your time on these models, just use the one that gets the better results

Re: SWE-1.7 Reach Near GPT 5.5 and Opus Intelligence

#39
post #17

Not finding anything about this while searching huggingface: https://huggingface.co/search/full-text?q=SWE-1.7 i assume this is another closed source model?

Open weight models should have GPL-like license where it says if you train model on it, it needs to be open weight as well.

Re: SWE-1.7 Reach Near GPT 5.5 and Opus Intelligence

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We need more models that optimize for coding and that can be cheaper than frontier models, like what SWE 1.7 and composer 2.5 are trying to do. I don't think there's an effort to make something GLM-5.2 level but focused only on coding.

Qwen was doing something like this with their coder models. But alas, they seem not to be releasing those anymore. Last one was Qwen3-coder-next.

Its crazy that OpenAI and Anthropic themselves aren't doing that. No attempts at reducing inference cost for code as far as I know from them.
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