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We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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This is just a series of ploys to make more marketing about fable. They know that if they make it api only nobody is going to talk about it. And knowing that openai will have a comparable model soon means they need to stir up some hype and make people use/talk about it as much as possible. And bluffing that access will be restricted until a specific date is just marketing. Like saying buy in the next 24 hours get one…

Yep, sounds like the usual time pressure tactics. Perhaps because no one's actually trying it. In the mean time, their vibe coded frontend doesn't actually let me use Fable because it thinks i'm trying to hack open source software. What I'm actually doing is debugging null pointer crashes due to data corruption in the closed source software i work for these days, but no, you dirty hacker, you can't do that. So let's…

> Fable being a world ending threat for finding security vulnerabilities

No that’s the other myth ( some variants of spelling) one

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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I think you need to consider how much dev mindshare you get from the loss-leader. Claude has grown at an insane rate. They brought vibe-coding mainstream. At some point they might decide they have enough demand and inertia from enterprise to reduce the subsidy. But to say “it’s doomed” really misses the fact that it has already been immensely successful.

We can switch in a heartbeat to a competitor, what kept us to Claude was that it had better models for a while. Closing Fable off means they are squarely inferior now. For me Opus 4.8 was a slow model with a strong habit of talking down to me in an obnoxious way that would not be possible to prompt away. GPT 5.5 is now my main driver for serious work.

Agreed that switching costs to Codex are quite low (not zero due to harness, prompt, and skill differences), but only because OpenAI is running the same loss-leader strategy.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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I still haven't been able to use Fable. I'm a medical physicist -- it just balks at anything I do and gives me an AUP / safeguard error. Applies even if I docstrip out all the comments in my C code!

Is it because of the type of work you're trying to get Fable to do or because Fable knows you're a medical physicist? I.e. if your CLAUDE.md says "I'm a medical physicist" but you're asking it to write a command line tool to list github prs or something, does it balk at that?

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Very expensive, not sure how it fits in with many companies seemingly trying to get employees using models at about Sonnet tier pricing. I certainly would never pay API rates for it, using ccusage I am seeing myself "use" $150-$400 worth of fable per day. ( https://www.theinformation.com/articles/tesla-caps-employee-... )

Do you have numbers for how much you were spending on Opus before with ccusage?

If tokens are equal, Fable should only be twice as expensive, but I think it does a lot more work by default.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that exculpates the Trump administration for its arbitrary and capricious use of export controls, an ill-suited legal mechanism, without reasonable process or justification - thereby forcing Anthropic to scramble.

Who cares, that doesn't have anything to do with the way Anthropic behaves. Not everything needs to be turned into something about Trump.

Perhaps if the Trump administration had left Anthropic and OpenAI alone, it wouldn't have turned into something about Trump.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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post #185

This is just a series of ploys to make more marketing about fable. They know that if they make it api only nobody is going to talk about it. And knowing that openai will have a comparable model soon means they need to stir up some hype and make people use/talk about it as much as possible. And bluffing that access will be restricted until a specific date is just marketing. Like saying buy in the next 24 hours get one…

Also the rerelease of the time limit over the holiday (july 4) was unfortunate, many Americans go offline for extended weekends (ex i was out almost a week). When i originally saw the fable 5 dates i just shrugged ah well guess i wont test it for a while.
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