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FDA rejects petition to set PFAS limits in food

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Re: FDA rejects petition to set PFAS limits in food

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My girlfriend accidentally told the donation center she went to Mexico, and they banned her from donating for four years. Apparently you'd only go to Mexico to eat brain tacos and share needles with cows. Surely there's a better way to filter out risky blood.

> eat brain tacos What's wrong with that? Animal brains are a common dish in many countries, including France, Asia, and parts of the United States

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Re: FDA rejects petition to set PFAS limits in food

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Whenever I see something like this, I'm always curious how the libertarians rationalize their world view. Because this is what they want: no regulations where companies can do whatever they want. And they will. We're witnessing the looting of America. Every level of government seems increasingly dedicated to transferring wealth from the taxpayer to the wealthy. But even that's not sufficient. Apparently the wealthy a…

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Re: FDA rejects petition to set PFAS limits in food

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You can read the FDA letter itself: https://www.regulations.gov/document/FDA-2023-P-4826-0015 Your comment does not give a correct impression of FDA's position here. Action levels are correctly described by the article and not by whatever FDA quote you provided, which seems to imply the FDA is required to take action to remove products. Surpassing action levels do not require FDA to remove products from the market.

Here is the FDA document I got the quote from https://www.regulations.gov/document/FDA-2020-D-1956-0001

That article was written in 2000. You might as well be quoting the Articles of Confederation.

Re: FDA rejects petition to set PFAS limits in food

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People have more unprotected, regrettable sex during travel and vacations, so maybe they're on to something?

Sounds like something you should test rather that just rely on heuristics

Heuristics work, why would you not rely on heuristics?

Re: FDA rejects petition to set PFAS limits in food

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Well, it's the having of an infectious blood borne thing that disqualifies you.

m-m sex is still disqualifying even if all parties are completely clean and safe. it's discriminatory.

All anal sex in the US requires a 3 month waiting period (as does any kind of sex with a new partner) not just male to male.

Anal sex is inherently much more likely to transit HIV and HIV tests have a higher false negative rate for new infections.

Re: FDA rejects petition to set PFAS limits in food

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Doing whole blood donations seems to significantly reduce PFAS in the blood. Here's one paper: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... Edit: This also helps others who are in accidents, car wrecks, have Cancer, etc. Yes, we pass on the PFAS to others, but the immediate need for blood is more urgent than the potential long term impacts of PFAS.

> we pass the PFAS to others Is there no way to filter them out of withdrawn blood?

That's correct.

Re: FDA rejects petition to set PFAS limits in food

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People have more unprotected, regrettable sex during travel and vacations, so maybe they're on to something?

Sounds like something you should test rather that just rely on heuristics

Tests cost money. They have blood enough to allow them to discriminate. If they were lacking, they will be less picky: in a catastrophic event they call for blood donors and they rely on tests, risking a detection window.

But under normal conditions, letting only the best candidates donate is the most efficient way.

Re: FDA rejects petition to set PFAS limits in food

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Doing whole blood donations seems to significantly reduce PFAS in the blood. Here's one paper: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... Edit: This also helps others who are in accidents, car wrecks, have Cancer, etc. Yes, we pass on the PFAS to others, but the immediate need for blood is more urgent than the potential long term impacts of PFAS.

I wonder what it would cost in the US to have a pint of blood taken - I can't donate. Guess I could do it myself...

I'm not sure there are any regulations around opting to do that in the US. Do you have a phlebotomist friend? If so, they might do it for you, but it can be risky and they might not want to take the risk, get sued, etc.

It is an interesting question. Are there companies that draw and discard?

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