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EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

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Re: EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

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What engine? Is not this game played in a spreadsheet?

https://prosperousuniverse.com is closer, but still not actually a spreadsheet. "This is EVE Online for people who think the 3D spaceships part of EVE is time wasted away from their spreadsheets. "

I got way into Prosperous Universe for a few months, a few years back—it was fun for awhile but the pace at which new features were being added to the game was (and still seems to be) absolutely glacial, given what the game is. Really fun ideas in there, though.

Re: EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

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Already used (sounds like, successfully) by the usual GitHub phishing campaigns: > found a workaround for the shader compilation bug that keeps the mesh from vanishing. I attached the fix here. https://github.com/carbonengine/trinity/issues/21 (Microsoft should stop it with the "This is not the web page you are looking for." where people specifically came looking to learn whether something was administratively blocke…

Pains me to see it play out like this. Crazy simple, and effective.

Re: EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

#63

Already used (sounds like, successfully) by the usual GitHub phishing campaigns: > found a workaround for the shader compilation bug that keeps the mesh from vanishing. I attached the fix here. https://github.com/carbonengine/trinity/issues/21 (Microsoft should stop it with the "This is not the web page you are looking for." where people specifically came looking to learn whether something was administratively blocke…

With all due respect, this reads to me as a couple of confusing non sequiturs. I took a quick look at the link you included, and it didn't help me understand what you're talking about either. Probably I'm just horrendously ignorant, but I would love to understand what you're referring to, and the point you're making about it.

Re: EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

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They don't even do orbits of basic solar system objects. Lol. Eve online has always just pretended to be a space sim.

games are about fun, if something only adds realism for no reason it's not good game design to add it

I still think it would be doable if done right. There are so many interesting elements of modern science and hard SF that could be included to introduce interesting game mechanics:

- adding various types of radiators (solid, droplet, etc.), gloving when weapons fire or engines activate, shooting them off prevents system from running

- planets on eccentric orbits with wildly varying surface conditions in mere days as the planet periodically get closer and farther to the star, from frozen solid to metals flowing like water days apart

- aerostat habitats in the atmosphere on gas giants or Venus like worlds, you could fly around but go to low (or get swept by a storm) and you might get crushed

- radiation belts, sun grazing comets or energy harvesting stations very close to a stellar body, can enter for a very limited time until even your shielded systems burn out - and good like with repair space walks!

- tidally locked bodies, where one side is always illuminated and the other one has an eternal night, with perhaps a thin habitable belt where conditions are just right for life, presenting interesting options for story telling and world building

Re: EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

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Last I checked (and remember right) they used Stackless Python. Very interesting, it can serialize tasklets and send them to another machine to continue executing. Seems no longer maintained though.

They moved away. Details in this blog post: https://evefrontier.com/en/news/moving-into-the-future-upgra...

I mean eve frontier is a pretty huge fork from almost scratch, did they backport changes into normal eve?

Re: EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

#66

Already used (sounds like, successfully) by the usual GitHub phishing campaigns: > found a workaround for the shader compilation bug that keeps the mesh from vanishing. I attached the fix here. https://github.com/carbonengine/trinity/issues/21 (Microsoft should stop it with the "This is not the web page you are looking for." where people specifically came looking to learn whether something was administratively blocke…

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Re: EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

#67

Already used (sounds like, successfully) by the usual GitHub phishing campaigns: > found a workaround for the shader compilation bug that keeps the mesh from vanishing. I attached the fix here. https://github.com/carbonengine/trinity/issues/21 (Microsoft should stop it with the "This is not the web page you are looking for." where people specifically came looking to learn whether something was administratively blocke…

With all due respect, this reads to me as a couple of confusing non sequiturs. I took a quick look at the link you included, and it didn't help me understand what you're talking about either. Probably I'm just horrendously ignorant, but I would love to understand what you're referring to, and the point you're making about it.

The zip file referenced in https://github.com/carbonengine/trinity/issues/21#issuecomme... is probably malware, per https://github.com/carbonengine/trinity/issues/21#issuecomme... . I didn't sit there and decompile the thing but even just running "strings" on the .exe is more evidence in favor of that, it has things like domain names that a "driver" shouldn't have. Whether or not "procedural" is part of the scam or a legit victim, I have not much opinion.

Re: EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

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post #50

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It helps me to just think of all these games as early 20th century naval warfare sims with a fantasy space theme. We like dreadnoughts and have a hard time with extraterrestrial physics.

To me it seems like the engine (and the mechanics) are focused on being an MMO first and a "simulation" second. From their website "EVE Online is a community-driven spaceship MMORPG where players can play free, choosing their own path from countless options." There are concepts in the game that would be unlikely in a simulation game but are common in MMO's. Think of fast travel, instance dungeons and more. One of Eve…

Indeed, I would even say that EVE chose to be unsharded/monolithic first, and many of the key design choices flow from that, including the fantasy space setting itself.

The monolithic world needs to be big to spread everyone out. And it's easier to create ten thousand "systems" than it would be to create an immersive terrestrial world with a similar scale. Each EVE system is just a bunch of objects floating in a 3D space that you travel between.

Re: EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

#69

Already used (sounds like, successfully) by the usual GitHub phishing campaigns: > found a workaround for the shader compilation bug that keeps the mesh from vanishing. I attached the fix here. https://github.com/carbonengine/trinity/issues/21 (Microsoft should stop it with the "This is not the web page you are looking for." where people specifically came looking to learn whether something was administratively blocke…

With all due respect, this reads to me as a couple of confusing non sequiturs. I took a quick look at the link you included, and it didn't help me understand what you're talking about either. Probably I'm just horrendously ignorant, but I would love to understand what you're referring to, and the point you're making about it.

The "issue" raised says "hey I found a bug, no ships are rendered, run this .exe file to fix it!" and someone did just that.

You don't run just random binaries off the Internet on your computers, do you?

Nooooo, of course you don't.

Re: EVE Online's Carbon engine is now open source: Fenris Creations explains why

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I've wanted to try out EVE Online for a while now. Never found the time, and it seems to be a bit of a time sink. Since I have no idea if I'm actually going to enjoy it or not, it never took priority. These kinds of news make me want to find the time. Good job!

I bought the game when it first came out (2003? Boxed, from Target) and played with an online friend for a while. We mostly mined and we didn't really have a corporation, it was just the two of us. There wasn't much else to do at the time. At one point I fell asleep at my keyboard during a mining op. Gave up soon after. In 2015 a coworker talked me into trying it again. We joined a small corporation, swore fealty to…

What is it about the giant battles that was not fun?
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