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Re: 30papers.com – Ilya's 30 essential ML papers, in a beginner friendly format

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Post by dahart »

supern0va wrote: post #50
HAL3000 wrote: post #30

Someone posts on X, "These are Ilya’s 30 papers", gives no source, doesn't say where he got it from, and isn't connected to either Ilya or Carmack (Ilya gave him the list). Then someone vibe codes a barely usable website based on that, and it lands on the HN front page? Is this correct?

First year CS student excited to learn about a thing puts together a small website of academic papers, posts it to HN to share with others. Then someone makes a shitty comment. Is that correct?

I tend to be amused that the complaints about what’s on the front page don’t seem to grasp the irony of complaining to the group of people that voted it there.

Re: 30papers.com – Ilya's 30 essential ML papers, in a beginner friendly format

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Post by geye1234 »

bartread wrote: post #87
supern0va wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First year CS student excited to learn about a thing puts together a small website of academic papers, posts it to HN to share with others. Then someone makes a shitty comment. Is that correct?

It's always fun to remember how rude people were about Dropbox on here. More seriously though, in many ways HN is a pretty broad church. You're always going to get a spectrum of opinions, and some portion of people are always going to be particularly forceful about putting forth their opinion. Maybe it's a bad day, maybe it's habit, varies from person to person and day to day, etc. But I think, if you're posting some…

I think this is one reason people like asking LLMs things. They have many downsides, but they're never rude or belittling.

Re: 30papers.com – Ilya's 30 essential ML papers, in a beginner friendly format

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Post by phtrivier »

notmcrowley wrote: post #2

Author here. First year CS student at Trinity College Dublin. I Built this because when I was getting into reading research papers I ended up burning a ton of my Claude usage asking questions other people have probably already asked. The website is just a side project and definitely a WIP. Happy to answer questions or take PRs on GitHub.

Hi ! The "artistic direction" is a bit original, but that's your thing, and you're free to present it anyway you want, of course !

I think the biggest problem people / I had when reading the list was the "based on a rumoured list of papers that Ilya Sutskever gave to John Carmack."

Where did you get the "rumoured list" from ? Why should a reader trust the rumours ? That seems to be a pretty big appeal to authority, and it's okay if it's only "word of mouth" (as most papers seems legit), but it's really weird not to give a source, or a backstory, or references, etc...

Especially since you claim to only have 27 ;)

Re: 30papers.com – Ilya's 30 essential ML papers, in a beginner friendly format

#104

Post by handwarmers »

whiplash451 wrote: post #94
bartread wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's always fun to remember how rude people were about Dropbox on here. More seriously though, in many ways HN is a pretty broad church. You're always going to get a spectrum of opinions, and some portion of people are always going to be particularly forceful about putting forth their opinion. Maybe it's a bad day, maybe it's habit, varies from person to person and day to day, etc. But I think, if you're posting some…

> negative feedback - and dismissive feedback - is something you need to be prepared OK. Let's RFM: first line = "Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes." So, no, it's not HN-OK for rude & unfounded feedback to make it to the top comment. Even if the website is "bad" (i.e. those 30 papers were never linked to Ilya etc.), the proper way of handling this is to call it out in…

fwiw for all the praise that dang & co get, they moderated this website into this state. there is a "blessed" way to break the rules and be a total asshole to people here, and there is the "other" way, that they punish relentlessly. we all have bad days, but HN's comments are just an exhausting cesspool of cynicism and cheap takes for the most part these days.

Re: 30papers.com – Ilya's 30 essential ML papers, in a beginner friendly format

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Post by algoth1 »

cute_boi wrote: post #27

No need stupid moving texts. CS231n: Convolutional Neural Networks for Visual Recognition - https://cs231n.github.io/ The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Recurrent Neural Networks - https://karpathy.github.io/2015/05/21/rnn-effectiveness/ Understanding LSTM Networks - https://colah.github.io/posts/2015-08-Understanding-LSTMs/ ImageNet Classification with Deep Convolutional Neural Networks - https://papers.nips.cc/paper…

Notebooklm would be a perfect home for these

Re: 30papers.com – Ilya's 30 essential ML papers, in a beginner friendly format

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Post by [deleted] »

supern0va wrote: post #50
HAL3000 wrote: post #30

Someone posts on X, "These are Ilya’s 30 papers", gives no source, doesn't say where he got it from, and isn't connected to either Ilya or Carmack (Ilya gave him the list). Then someone vibe codes a barely usable website based on that, and it lands on the HN front page? Is this correct?

First year CS student excited to learn about a thing puts together a small website of academic papers, posts it to HN to share with others. Then someone makes a shitty comment. Is that correct?

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Re: 30papers.com – Ilya's 30 essential ML papers, in a beginner friendly format

#108

Post by notmcrowley »

phtrivier wrote: post #103
notmcrowley wrote: post #2

Author here. First year CS student at Trinity College Dublin. I Built this because when I was getting into reading research papers I ended up burning a ton of my Claude usage asking questions other people have probably already asked. The website is just a side project and definitely a WIP. Happy to answer questions or take PRs on GitHub.

Hi ! The "artistic direction" is a bit original, but that's your thing, and you're free to present it anyway you want, of course ! I think the biggest problem people / I had when reading the list was the "based on a rumoured list of papers that Ilya Sutskever gave to John Carmack." Where did you get the "rumoured list" from ? Why should a reader trust the rumours ? That seems to be a pretty big appeal to authority, a…

The list came from a post on X by ex-OpenAI employee Andrew Carr. There are multiple lists floating around which is why I said rumoured. I found this to be a more credible source than others though given Sutskever's connection to OpenAI so I used it.

Re: 30papers.com – Ilya's 30 essential ML papers, in a beginner friendly format

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Post by bartread »

whiplash451 wrote: post #94
bartread wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's always fun to remember how rude people were about Dropbox on here. More seriously though, in many ways HN is a pretty broad church. You're always going to get a spectrum of opinions, and some portion of people are always going to be particularly forceful about putting forth their opinion. Maybe it's a bad day, maybe it's habit, varies from person to person and day to day, etc. But I think, if you're posting some…

> negative feedback - and dismissive feedback - is something you need to be prepared OK. Let's RFM: first line = "Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes." So, no, it's not HN-OK for rude & unfounded feedback to make it to the top comment. Even if the website is "bad" (i.e. those 30 papers were never linked to Ilya etc.), the proper way of handling this is to call it out in…

I think you're misunderstanding me or over-interpreting what I've said. I'm not justifying or excusing the unkind behaviour, and I'm aware of the site terms on HN.

What I'm saying is that in large online forums - regardless of terms of use - some people are unkind, and that it's a good idea to be prepared for that when you post something publicly.

Re: 30papers.com – Ilya's 30 essential ML papers, in a beginner friendly format

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Post by bartread »

esperent wrote: post #95
bartread wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's always fun to remember how rude people were about Dropbox on here. More seriously though, in many ways HN is a pretty broad church. You're always going to get a spectrum of opinions, and some portion of people are always going to be particularly forceful about putting forth their opinion. Maybe it's a bad day, maybe it's habit, varies from person to person and day to day, etc. But I think, if you're posting some…

> some portion of people are always going to be particularly forceful about putting forth their opinion. Maybe it's a bad day, maybe it's habit, varies from person to person and day to day, etc. I have no problem that someone had a bad reaction to this and needs to vent, I have a problem that the community deems it the most noteworthy comment and keeps it voted to the very top of the thread.

Probably a lot of people voting aren't aware of the terms of use. But, at any rate, it's certainly not the top comment now - it often takes a couple of hours or so for voting to settle out and the initial top comment quite often doesn't stay that way.
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