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Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Why is it "spend" and not "spending"?

spend is a noun in this sentence. As a noun, spend refers to the amount of money spent for a particular purpose or over a specified length of time

Spending is also a noun. A gerund used to be the way you nounify a verb. “Ad spending” is perfectly grammatical, unlike “ad spend”.

This seems to be part of a broader trend, not just business. One group of pastor-students would talk about giving a “preach”. Drove me nuts.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Fascinating. I suppose they can be smaller than quartz crystals?

If you find that fascinating already... did you know that all cellphones use mechanical filters in the GHz range ? They combine very good performance with very low energy consumption. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_acoustic_wave https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akustische-Oberfl%C3%A4chenwel... (pictures)

Honestly, the "HF physics is black magic" trope has made me numb to the phantastical contraptions. I appreciate when they look cool, like esoteric orgon wave radiators.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Fascinating. I suppose they can be smaller than quartz crystals?

Very little uses crystal oscillators, they’re gigantic compared with electronics today and have very wonky performance over temperature and shock.

even txco's?

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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No company can plan based on the tariffs. There is zero guarantee that then next government won't revoked them or that the current one won't flip-flop. Local manufacturing doesn't swing on a 2-4 (or 6 or 8) year timescale. There needs to be consistency. The company that moves (or starts) manufacturing here today might get run out of business when/if tariffs are repealed and their competitor already has production lin…

> No company can plan based on the tariffs. There is zero guarantee that then next government won't revoked them or that the current one won't flip-flop. Local manufacturing doesn't swing on a 2-4 (or 6 or 8) year timescale. There needs to be consistency. Indeed, but the role of a government is to steer/push private initiative in a certain direction. Tariffs and stuff are steering private companies towards building s…

The American electorate seems quite happy to elect people who will sabotage the US economy, so that isn't any reassurance that it won't happen. Tariffs are currently going up and down based on a single man's whims.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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We are losing a lot more manufacturing due to the new tariffs on industrial parts than we are gaining from tariffs on finished products

https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/trumps-ta... Steel tariffs are calculated to cost ~$900k per job saved. It also makes all other industries in the US that use steel less competitive in the global market.

Steel is particularly sensitive in rich countries. Ask yourself: Why haven't all steel plants closed in rich countries and moved to poor countries? Military.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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Also, by definition, if dollars left the country then stuff came in. We literally traded bit flips in a database for tangible stuff.

Bit flips in a database = years of people’s labor and planning

An arbitrary score that's meant to represent said years, not the actual output of those years.

It's important to remember that money is not value. It's a score that's meant to represent value, but the value itself is entirely distinct.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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30B investment for "hundreds" of US jobs seems like a weird number to brag about

I mean its the same thing as the data center investments.

Think whatever you want about them, whether they're good or bad when it comes to environment, public health etc.

But one thing cannot be ignored - that they are not built to employ some large swath of people. They can be run with very lean teams, much leaner than the average person thinks for something so large. Any claim that they are employing some measurable amount of people is a sham they try to push onto the public.

Re: Apple to increase spend with Broadcom to produce billions more U.S. chips

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What is with the phrase "increase spend"? It just seems gramatically .... off. Why not say "Apple partners with Broadcom to produce billions more US chips".

I think it just means they had been partnering in the past and now they're expanding it with more investment.
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