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Because they want a Haiku, Sonnet, Opus equivalent I guess?
Exactly, and I think the tipping point was how many times “Fable” was mentioned the last weeks
Then they should have just called it Fairytale
GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday
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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday
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Honestly, "mini" and "nano" to me just seem like really awful names from a marketing perspective - they might as well call it "lobotomized crap version of GPT" and "even more lobotomized crap version of GPT". Whereas Sol/Luna/Terra reads more like "GPT for hard/medium/basic problems".
See, you are already confused: it's Sol/Terra/Luna, descending order by diameter. One is tempted to put the Sun and the Moon before the Earth, as those are "celestial".
It's the same issue with American and ISO date formats again. I mean, it's 8/7/2026 today, what's the problem?
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday
#143I know a few of my comments are related to this, but these new names are horrible. Why introduce ANOTHER layer of confusion and drop the mini, nano suffixes that people got used to? How does this go through so many layers of management at a trillion dollar company without who has a say raising this? I simply can't believe how stupid the naming scheme from OpenAI was and continues to be even after they acknowledged it…
Because people weren't using the mini and nano models. Like someone else said those are awful marketing names.
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday
#144Thoughts[^0] from Theo, who had early access: > It's a damn good model. Not quite as "smart" as Fable, but it is incredibly capable. Fixed all the problems I had with GPT-5.5. > It is incredibly determined. Will run for a day without even using a /goal. It understands subagents incredibly well and is great at orchestrating. It's super pleasant in use cases like OpenClaw and Hermes Agent. It knows iOS dev incredibly w…
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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday
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I sort of disagree, the issue is that he like so many professionals (prime agent, being the other) becoming youtubers uses their experiences to make their opinion the only opinion when said opinion is nuanced or plain wrong objectively.
No he usually acknowledges other opinions (including the ones that I share) and tells from his perspective why they are wrong. It feels condescending when you see a face on screen, roasting what you think is right, but I personally could get over it and learn to take the bits that challenge my ideas. Of course, youtube isn't interactive and when you see something that you think is objectively wrong, your options are…
You can make a counter argument video, which I've seen done, and then sometimes the original YouTuber will reply or collab. This happened when Theo had some truly awful takes on Flutter while knowing nothing about it, a prominent Flutter dev replied rebutting each point made, then they both collaborated to make a video where they switch technologies for a few hours to build something, and it was enlightening for both parties.
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday
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My feeling is that GPT-5.5 doesn't lack the raw intelligence so much as it lacks "methodology". I don't know how exactly to put it... how to approach a problem, how to take care of the details and side effects, how to handle unexpected difficulties and bugs, how to not spin out of control, how to write solid code, how to clean up afterwards, how to document, how to give useful feedback... the things that you learn on…
Is Fable really that much different? I almost instinctively create elaborate processes, workflows, set up a bunch of linters and dump research docs any time I bootstrap a new project regardless of what model I'm using. They all spiral out of control if they're not following a predefined process.
Yes it is. With Fable you don't need to create any sort of elaborate process, it seems to understand the user's intent much better than Opus class models.
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday
#147I know a few of my comments are related to this, but these new names are horrible. Why introduce ANOTHER layer of confusion and drop the mini, nano suffixes that people got used to? How does this go through so many layers of management at a trillion dollar company without who has a say raising this? I simply can't believe how stupid the naming scheme from OpenAI was and continues to be even after they acknowledged it…
Yet, in a month we'll be fine. We were fine with Anthropic naming models by music. I'm sure celestial bodies will be OK too. Larger = better. It's simple. As for the why? Marketing, making products feel "fresh", exciting, new, something alluring that we didn't have before. So, much like since industrialization.
What surprises me is not this, but that OpenAI changed things up without syncing with a GPT 6.
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday
#148I know a few of my comments are related to this, but these new names are horrible. Why introduce ANOTHER layer of confusion and drop the mini, nano suffixes that people got used to? How does this go through so many layers of management at a trillion dollar company without who has a say raising this? I simply can't believe how stupid the naming scheme from OpenAI was and continues to be even after they acknowledged it…
Because people weren't using the mini and nano models. Like someone else said those are awful marketing names.
well I'm using mini models and GPT-5.4-mini is better than Gemini 3.1 Pro (considerably faster in exchange for less broad world knowledge) and 3.5 Flash (that one's trash by itself)
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday
#149I know a few of my comments are related to this, but these new names are horrible. Why introduce ANOTHER layer of confusion and drop the mini, nano suffixes that people got used to? How does this go through so many layers of management at a trillion dollar company without who has a say raising this? I simply can't believe how stupid the naming scheme from OpenAI was and continues to be even after they acknowledged it…
I mostly used GPT-Venti for the complex part, but the documentation was done by either GPT-Grande or GPT-Tall.
On a more serious note, I can vividly imagine how difficult it is to agree on a set of words that could plausibly suggest a relational meaning while remaining non-diminutive in every individual model name. Adding to the complexity, it is going to be used globally, and the main competitor already has an arguably successful, fabulous naming scheme.
It sounds like a PR minefield.
Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday
#150I know a few of my comments are related to this, but these new names are horrible. Why introduce ANOTHER layer of confusion and drop the mini, nano suffixes that people got used to? How does this go through so many layers of management at a trillion dollar company without who has a say raising this? I simply can't believe how stupid the naming scheme from OpenAI was and continues to be even after they acknowledged it…
Honestly, "mini" and "nano" to me just seem like really awful names from a marketing perspective - they might as well call it "lobotomized crap version of GPT" and "even more lobotomized crap version of GPT". Whereas Sol/Luna/Terra reads more like "GPT for hard/medium/basic problems".
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