Why so many Waydroid installs?
LineageOS Statistics
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Re: LineageOS Statistics
#32It's quite sad to see these stats. It used to be the defacto standard for custom ROMs. These dwindling numbers make me think either people aren't as interested in custom ROMs anymore and using the (bloated/Google) factory ROMs or maybe there's some new standard. Didn't these numbers used to be much, much higher in the past? NB: Since I'm on GrapheneOS now I haven't looked back
> NB: Since I'm on GrapheneOS now I haven't looked back
Not to suggest GrapheneOS has become the new "standard" given it currently only supports Pixels, but I hear a lot more about GrapheneOS as the custom Android build than LineageOS, so I wonder if a lot of people have moved there from LineageOS.
The other reason for a decline in custom ROMs may just be that apps are becoming more and more locked down. Banking apps are getting stricter all the time, so even the ones that work with custom ROMs today aren't guaranteed to work tomorrow. And more people probably use Google Wallet than ever, which also rules out custom ROMs AFAIK.
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#33It's quite sad to see these stats. It used to be the defacto standard for custom ROMs. These dwindling numbers make me think either people aren't as interested in custom ROMs anymore and using the (bloated/Google) factory ROMs or maybe there's some new standard. Didn't these numbers used to be much, much higher in the past? NB: Since I'm on GrapheneOS now I haven't looked back
It's a combination of anti-competitive practices from Google (Play Integrity, more and more features locked behind closed source binaries instead of AOSP) and manufacturer locking the bootloaders much more than in the past.
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#34It's quite sad to see these stats. It used to be the defacto standard for custom ROMs. These dwindling numbers make me think either people aren't as interested in custom ROMs anymore and using the (bloated/Google) factory ROMs or maybe there's some new standard. Didn't these numbers used to be much, much higher in the past? NB: Since I'm on GrapheneOS now I haven't looked back
Nowadays most devices can't be bootloader unlocked at all (see Huawei/BBK(Oppo,Vivo) in China) or can but with difficulties and, in some cases, little to no driver support (see Xiaomi or even Samsung's unlock procedures too, difficult to deal with from experience). So developers cannot develop ROMs as they cannot get on the phones anyway.
This is partly done, I think, to prevent users from uninstalling bloatware (Chinese brands doing this mostly), since I've had to deal with this on a BBK branded phone, locked down so far even ADB can't touch the bloat.
Google is also a part of this with play integrity and apps being blocked from working, so if you depend on Google or if you want to use that phone in your day-to-day life with apps from work or banking apps, it might not work great on the same phone.
In my opinion I think it is mostly the manufacturers fighting this, Google is solvable but a locked bootloader isn't.
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#35I doubt whether those US numbers are real, lot of custom rom development/user base has been asian & european market in last decade even though the numbers have been decreasing over the decade (I don't have proof)...
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
- Spoofing SafetyNet used to be trivial, and not many apps depended on it; whereas these days, it's between hard and impossible to spoof Play Integrity, and it feels like much more apps depend on it. (At least, that's why I stopped rooting my phone.) - If you want a non-bloated, mostly-AOSP ROM with updates for many years, installing LineageOS (or another third-party ROM) used to be the only option; whereas these day…
I believe a lot of the enthusiasm we had at the start of the smartphone age is also now gone. The phone is now a boring device made for scrolling and running apps that are mandatory to participate in modern society.
> The phone is now a boring device made for scrolling and running apps that are mandatory to participate in modern society.
..a boring ¡spyware! device that tracks and listens to you!
Also you forgot to mention that you're sharing your personal and device details to our 1,893 e21 partners!
Really though, I'm just waiting for that AI agent that will help me shop online on my phone.. That's my vision of a perfect future!! /s
(how is this boring?:))
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#37Notice the most LineageOS installs is Waydroid...
I miss the free era from 10 years ago. Back then it was probably still called CM.
Now manufacturers are extremely closed: Xiaomi started by making Android ROMs, but today the most practical way to unlock its BL is through exploits...
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#38I doubt whether those US numbers are real, lot of custom rom development/user base has been asian & european market in last decade even though the numbers have been decreasing over the decade (I don't have proof)...
Using a custom ROM is not the same as using LineageOS in particular. Also, the numbers imply just 23% of LineageOS installs are in the US.
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#39Would something like E/OS be considered a Official or Unofficial builds? I suppose Unofficial since it is a fork?
Re: LineageOS Statistics
#40It's quite sad to see these stats. It used to be the defacto standard for custom ROMs. These dwindling numbers make me think either people aren't as interested in custom ROMs anymore and using the (bloated/Google) factory ROMs or maybe there's some new standard. Didn't these numbers used to be much, much higher in the past? NB: Since I'm on GrapheneOS now I haven't looked back
> NB: Since I'm on GrapheneOS now I haven't looked back Not to suggest GrapheneOS has become the new "standard" given it currently only supports Pixels, but I hear a lot more about GrapheneOS as the custom Android build than LineageOS, so I wonder if a lot of people have moved there from LineageOS. The other reason for a decline in custom ROMs may just be that apps are becoming more and more locked down. Banking apps…
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