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We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by ImageXav »

ricksunny wrote: post #177
try-working wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an interesting comment because it makes me want to ask the question, what is the use for fable then? For me, GPT 5.4 is enough when using recursive-mode. I do appreciate GPT 5.5 Pro for some larger research, architecture, planning tasks though. I think that's what Fable is for. A very small % of total work.

What is the use of a genius who does great work but doesn’t document their results, only produces them? How much do companies enjoy having a structural dependency on someone like that?

I think it depends on your workflow. I've had a great experience with the trial. I work in research, and have set up something similar to Kaparthy's auto research. I, with Fable, have managed to get an image generation model down from 80M parameters to 10M and keep the quality of the generated images on par (similar FID). And, importantly, every change was modular, explained by Fable, reviewed by myself, and understood and documented. If not understood, I read relevant docs until I did it didn't accept it as part of the plan. So it ended up being a simple composition of existing ideas which I had previously encountered, but stacked much more rapidly than I could have.

The structure of the code is easily readable as I enforce concenventions followed by good libraries. And I can easily plug in new datasets. It's pretty good frankly.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by notrealyme123 »

rcfox wrote: post #69
nickandbro wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah it's right here: https://x.com/ClaudeDevs/status/2054639777685934564 It's not phrased as a usage cut, but rather when their 50% higher limits ends. EDIT: its 33.3% less usage after July 13th

Huh, it's wild that they didn't send an email about this. I can't imagine people taking this well, especially as they don't seem to be giving notice about the end of it either.

I started using Claude Code in the meantime with a max plan. I am very muched surprised by this.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by nottorp »

alex7o wrote: post #185

This is just a series of ploys to make more marketing about fable. They know that if they make it api only nobody is going to talk about it. And knowing that openai will have a comparable model soon means they need to stir up some hype and make people use/talk about it as much as possible. And bluffing that access will be restricted until a specific date is just marketing. Like saying buy in the next 24 hours get one…

Yep, sounds like the usual time pressure tactics. Perhaps because no one's actually trying it.

In the mean time, their vibe coded frontend doesn't actually let me use Fable because it thinks i'm trying to hack open source software. What I'm actually doing is debugging null pointer crashes due to data corruption in the closed source software i work for these days, but no, you dirty hacker, you can't do that.

So let's recapitulate:

- they put out some marketing copy about Fable being a world ending threat for finding security vulnerabilities

- they get banned by the US government, which believes the marketing copy

- they add "safeguards" and the US government allows them to make it public again

- said safeguards make the product useless for their paying customers

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by sagarpatil »

alex7o wrote: post #185

This is just a series of ploys to make more marketing about fable. They know that if they make it api only nobody is going to talk about it. And knowing that openai will have a comparable model soon means they need to stir up some hype and make people use/talk about it as much as possible. And bluffing that access will be restricted until a specific date is just marketing. Like saying buy in the next 24 hours get one…

Spot on. OpenAI releases GPT 5.6 on Thursday.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by kiernan »

roncesvalles wrote: post #5
bathory wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is, many people are hungry for GPT-5.6, considering it is supposed to be Fable class, with lower costs. Many Claude users were ready to jump ship.

Also consider that Fable launched on June 9. Many people including myself bought a 1-month Anthropic subscription just to use Fable. By extending it to July 12, they're gonna get a second month out of a lot of such people. If it really expired today, I wasn't going to renew my month.

My theory is they saw capacity would have issues during weekday working hours due to last minute frenzy of usage, so would rather it happen on a weekend if it has to happen.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by tmountain »

Cider9986 wrote: post #179

These comments feel like kids and their parent Anthropic. "For summer, you're becoming a big boy so we've made the decision to increase your allowance." You are an adult, why are you using a service that treats you like a child?

Cause all the kids are hooked on crack.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by [deleted] »

alex7o wrote: post #185

This is just a series of ploys to make more marketing about fable. They know that if they make it api only nobody is going to talk about it. And knowing that openai will have a comparable model soon means they need to stir up some hype and make people use/talk about it as much as possible. And bluffing that access will be restricted until a specific date is just marketing. Like saying buy in the next 24 hours get one…

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Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by somenameforme »

alfg wrote: post #141
somenameforme wrote: post #81

Does this affect anybody? It seems they didn't reset your Fable usage so this only applies to people who didn't hit their 50%-of-plan limit with Fable and I can't imagine that's many people given how this thing eats through tokens like that's its job. On Pro I generally could not complete a single plan+execution cycle without hitting my token cap, so that 50% of weekly limit got eaten up fast and I assume that's the…

I used up all my Fable credits over the weekend and looks like it’s completely reset as of today.

That's just going to be the weekly roll-over for you being well timed. I'm at 100% - quite annoying.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by nottorp »

pyrex wrote: post #178
ngsevers wrote: post #175

Anybody else find Fable almost unusable because of the safeguards? I generally can't get more than 2 minutes into a task without it auto-switching back to opus..

I'm in the biomedical field so yes, it drops to Opus 4.8 straight away due to safeguards.

Same for the dental app I'm working on.

And for the record i'm NOT vibe coding it...

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