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GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by trentor »

manojlds wrote: post #106
elAhmo wrote: post #99

I know a few of my comments are related to this, but these new names are horrible. Why introduce ANOTHER layer of confusion and drop the mini, nano suffixes that people got used to? How does this go through so many layers of management at a trillion dollar company without who has a say raising this? I simply can't believe how stupid the naming scheme from OpenAI was and continues to be even after they acknowledged it…

Because they want a Haiku, Sonnet, Opus equivalent I guess?

The funny thing is they had the decision to go with some less or more pretentious...

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by bberrry »

reassess_blind wrote: post #6

I’m bouncing back between Codex and Claude like a ping-pong ball. I much prefer the experience using Codex, less verbose and to-the-point I’ve found. But Fable, being as strong as it is, is a big draw for Claude right now. I’ll likely switch back to Codex if 5.6 Sol is comparable.

5.6 Sol is extremely good, definitely Fable level from my experience. With 5.6 Sol being half the price and noticeably faster I think Anthropic will find the coming months unpleasant.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by solids »

manojlds wrote: post #106
elAhmo wrote: post #99

I know a few of my comments are related to this, but these new names are horrible. Why introduce ANOTHER layer of confusion and drop the mini, nano suffixes that people got used to? How does this go through so many layers of management at a trillion dollar company without who has a say raising this? I simply can't believe how stupid the naming scheme from OpenAI was and continues to be even after they acknowledged it…

Because they want a Haiku, Sonnet, Opus equivalent I guess?

Exactly, and I think the tipping point was how many times “Fable” was mentioned the last weeks

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by bananaflag »

AussieWog93 wrote: post #110
elAhmo wrote: post #99

I know a few of my comments are related to this, but these new names are horrible. Why introduce ANOTHER layer of confusion and drop the mini, nano suffixes that people got used to? How does this go through so many layers of management at a trillion dollar company without who has a say raising this? I simply can't believe how stupid the naming scheme from OpenAI was and continues to be even after they acknowledged it…

Honestly, "mini" and "nano" to me just seem like really awful names from a marketing perspective - they might as well call it "lobotomized crap version of GPT" and "even more lobotomized crap version of GPT". Whereas Sol/Luna/Terra reads more like "GPT for hard/medium/basic problems".

See, you are already confused: it's Sol/Terra/Luna, descending order by diameter. One is tempted to put the Sun and the Moon before the Earth, as those are "celestial".

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by orliesaurus »

tyteen4a03 wrote: post #46
reassess_blind wrote: post #6

I’m bouncing back between Codex and Claude like a ping-pong ball. I much prefer the experience using Codex, less verbose and to-the-point I’ve found. But Fable, being as strong as it is, is a big draw for Claude right now. I’ll likely switch back to Codex if 5.6 Sol is comparable.

Why not both? T3 Code exists.

theo's alt account

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by orliesaurus »

simiones wrote: post #104
wahnfrieden wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

You answered at more or less the same time as an OpenAI engineer confirming this is the case, explaining why they did it, and pointing to their docs that also very explicitly explain this "made-up nonsense". You should really consider why you felt so certain about something you were plain wrong about.

> You should really consider why you felt so certain about something you were plain wrong about.

I applaud this reply!

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by mnicky »

elAhmo wrote: post #99

I know a few of my comments are related to this, but these new names are horrible. Why introduce ANOTHER layer of confusion and drop the mini, nano suffixes that people got used to? How does this go through so many layers of management at a trillion dollar company without who has a say raising this? I simply can't believe how stupid the naming scheme from OpenAI was and continues to be even after they acknowledged it…

My theory is that they don't have Fable-class intelligence so they needed different hype vehicle :) This rename helps build excitement a bit more than just releasing ordinary GPT-5.6 increment.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by ah1508 »

ttoinou wrote: post #39
bashtoni wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like listening to Theo about anything technical is like consulting a Labrador retriever for advice on quantum physics. Every time I've ever seen one of his videos it's pretty clear he has very little understanding of development or engineering. I first became aware of him from his early "unit tests are a waste of time" stuff, and it seems his skillset is building a personal brand. Fair play, he's clearly talen…

There is a whole religion about tests that is worth attacking though

When I start using a chainsaw or a car I hope it has been tested (!) Without tests before delivery the one who tests is the end user. Disaster for a unreliable chainsaw, very unpleasant for a software.

But you're right, the goal is not to write test but to ensure delivery of a reliable software. However each software is a prototype, something that has never been made before (unlike a manufactured car or chainsaw) so the customer must be ready to some unexpected behaviors when the software is released.

Since tests are often sloppy or does not cover every edge case, I see a real value for GenAI. It also forces to write good spec: very clear about inputs and the invariants for each use case. I think that AI (especially GenAI) should first be a solution to existing problem, lack of tests and good specs is often one of them.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

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Post by rob74 »

bananaflag wrote: post #114
AussieWog93 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, "mini" and "nano" to me just seem like really awful names from a marketing perspective - they might as well call it "lobotomized crap version of GPT" and "even more lobotomized crap version of GPT". Whereas Sol/Luna/Terra reads more like "GPT for hard/medium/basic problems".

See, you are already confused: it's Sol/Terra/Luna, descending order by diameter. One is tempted to put the Sun and the Moon before the Earth, as those are "celestial".

So, Terra should work for most "down-to-earth" problems, Luna is for light-weight stuff (because less gravity?), and if you really want to burn tokens like there's no tomorrow, you go for the fusion furnace at the center of our solar system?
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