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Re: Show HN: Rowboat – Open-source, local-first alternative to Claude Desktop

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Look really great! I'm a bit sad that the only way to connect to email is gmail. Is a generic IMAP connector on your roadmap?

Thanks!

Fair - it's Gmail-only today. We've thought about generic IMAP, but it seems to have some technical gaps for how our email surface works. For instance, there's no reliable cross-provider way to pre-create drafts on a thread. So we haven't prioritized it just yet. We do plan to add Outlook support soon.

Re: Show HN: Rowboat – Open-source, local-first alternative to Claude Desktop

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post #36

Look really great! I'm a bit sad that the only way to connect to email is gmail. Is a generic IMAP connector on your roadmap?

Thanks! Fair - it's Gmail-only today. We've thought about generic IMAP, but it seems to have some technical gaps for how our email surface works. For instance, there's no reliable cross-provider way to pre-create drafts on a thread. So we haven't prioritized it just yet. We do plan to add Outlook support soon.

Thanks for the straight answer, sadly I use neither of those providers. As a suggestion: maybe you could add an option to just disable e-mail integration, for users like me? Right now I'll be getting, "finalize your app setup" vibes... forever.

Again, great app - all the best for the future!

Re: Show HN: Rowboat – Open-source, local-first alternative to Claude Desktop

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Fair - it's Gmail-only today. We've thought about generic IMAP, but it seems to have some technical gaps for how our email surface works. For instance, there's no reliable cross-provider way to pre-create drafts on a thread. So we haven't prioritized it just yet. We do plan to add Outlook support soon.

Thanks for the straight answer, sadly I use neither of those providers. As a suggestion: maybe you could add an option to just disable e-mail integration, for users like me? Right now I'll be getting, "finalize your app setup" vibes... forever. Again, great app - all the best for the future!

That's totally fair. We will try to add a way to disable email if you don't want to connect. Appreciate the kind words!

Re: Show HN: Rowboat – Open-source, local-first alternative to Claude Desktop

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What I'm looking for right now is a tool like this that lets more than one person participate in the conversation: right now Claude Code and similar tools are great for working alone, but I'd like to effectively pair-prompt with a partner who can see what's happening, and take turns steering the conversation. Can Rowboat do this? If not, does anybody know a harness that can?

...tmux?

Re: Show HN: Rowboat – Open-source, local-first alternative to Claude Desktop

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Super neat; will test. Initial read suggests the memory accretion continues indefinitely. Asking partially since I am still working on a personal way to deal with that as an issue: Any plans for a more opinionated way to handle memory ( but still within user's control )? edit: syntax

Update. It has a lot of potential ( and it did get better since I remember it from the original ShowHN ). There are pieces missing, but this may be a project to which I can happily contribute the pieces I think are missing.

That's great to hear! Would love your contributions. Please feel free to find us or DM me on Discord if you want to have a quick chat on anything.

Re: Show HN: Rowboat – Open-source, local-first alternative to Claude Desktop

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What I'm looking for right now is a tool like this that lets more than one person participate in the conversation: right now Claude Code and similar tools are great for working alone, but I'd like to effectively pair-prompt with a partner who can see what's happening, and take turns steering the conversation. Can Rowboat do this? If not, does anybody know a harness that can?

I have a hunch that both OpenAI and Anthropic are building towards this very quickly. It's one of the startup ideas that will be killed overnight when it's "officially" launched. Claude Tag was just released which lets Claude participate in chats in Slack - only a matter of time until they move those chats out of Slack and into their own platform.

Re: Show HN: Rowboat – Open-source, local-first alternative to Claude Desktop

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What I'm looking for right now is a tool like this that lets more than one person participate in the conversation: right now Claude Code and similar tools are great for working alone, but I'd like to effectively pair-prompt with a partner who can see what's happening, and take turns steering the conversation. Can Rowboat do this? If not, does anybody know a harness that can?

I have a hunch that both OpenAI and Anthropic are building towards this very quickly. It's one of the startup ideas that will be killed overnight when it's "officially" launched. Claude Tag was just released which lets Claude participate in chats in Slack - only a matter of time until they move those chats out of Slack and into their own platform.

That hunch is probably right - the labs are likely building towards this. However, our bet is that in knowledge work the labs don't have a structural advantage: the model isn't the product there, unlike coding where it mostly is - and even in coding, opencode and others are gaining real traction.

What they do have is funding and distribution, but that's the same advantage every incumbent has against every startup.

The single biggest advantage we have is that the labs are tied to their ecosystems. Claude still doesn't have image generation; Gemini-flash-lite is the best cheap model, but Gemini's apps can't use the latest models from Anthropic or OpenAI. We can always use the best tool for each job.

Re: Show HN: Rowboat – Open-source, local-first alternative to Claude Desktop

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What I'm looking for right now is a tool like this that lets more than one person participate in the conversation: right now Claude Code and similar tools are great for working alone, but I'd like to effectively pair-prompt with a partner who can see what's happening, and take turns steering the conversation. Can Rowboat do this? If not, does anybody know a harness that can?

This isn't exactly what you're looking for but for just the coding part, I am working on https://www.buildautomaton.com to allow multiple people to participate on a shared coding session. It's also bring your own agent subscription, uses ACP to talk to any agent (Cursor, Claude, Codex, etc), and is end-to-end encrypted for most of your IP.

Looks great, but the pricing model is a challenge for a small team. If there was a generous trial period (for testing) with a lower small team price I might be able to consider it, but it’s hard to justify constantly increasing AI and compute costs (already paying for several model subscriptions, existing orchestration tools… in addition to typical infrastructure)

Re: Show HN: Rowboat – Open-source, local-first alternative to Claude Desktop

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post #16

I actually was using this quite a lot earlier this year, thanks for this! What I actually ended up doing was regularly pointing Claude at the Rowboat directory. Really useful to have all of this context available as markdown files. I use my own standard format for all context capsules, and had my own branch running with that format hacked in. Being able to describe the format in a plugin style architecture would be a…

That is great to know! We heard of others pointing Claude to the knowledge graph. It made us double down on building a Claude desktop alternative, so we could couple them deeply. For instance, there are places you could provide feedback on emails to Rowboat and that goes into the knowledge graph which then improves the email handling. Something like this would be hard, if we did not control the assistant as well. Wou…

The format is:

https://contextcapsules.com/v2/CONTEXT_CAPSULES.md

Context Capsules cover business concepts (even org structure), all the way through to implementation. Compounding value from bounded context.

I implemented the Granola Sync when rowboat stopped pulling it in (I have a year's worth of transcripts of pretty much every conversation I've had over the past year).

One shot granola sync in both TypeScript and go from a single Context Capsule:

https://downkeep.com/sDzvgoKx/granola-sync?k=bJ0JXOTErCt1XVU...

Nightmare passing markdown files around in this day and age, and yet they are the future. DownKeep is my personal attempt at keeping some sanity, not production!

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