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Seriously, just let me fucking pay to get steady service 24/7.
Use console and pay API rates. Very predictable.
usage credits is also an option, auto-reloads too.
We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
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Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#172Only inferior, talentless and lower intelligence developers need to rely on LLMs.
Fortunately, you're all going to be jobless when the AI boom fizzles out and it becomes cost prohibitive to use these products once VCs aren't subsidising it. Then us real developers will be laughing.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#173Loosing Fable July 12th and getting usage cut by a third post July 13th is going to be rough. Looks like all the reporting about Anthropic trying their earnest to turn a profit this quarter is true. In the mean time, I will gladly switch to Codex. Their Pro plan gives you amble usage and only runs close when you are using the fast mode. And even if you run out of credits, they have given users so many credit resets t…
Subscription is ~$200/month. When I tried running on tokens it was ~$500/day for the same usage pattern. My guess is my usage is atypically high, but even if the average equivalent is $100-250/day you can get a sense of how much Anthropic is subsidizing subscriptions as a loss leader to lock market share. IMHO this is a doomed strategy since open models will get into a long tail of parity and they’ll ultimately essen…
Using Opus 4.8 on their Max 5x plan (108 EUR with VAT) would have cost me around 4600 EUR at API rates: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48684539
I also compared them against GLM Coding Plan (cause everyone was positive of the model): https://blog.kronis.dev/blog/z-ai-s-glm-5-2-is-a-great-model... and Anthropic still gives you a bit more tokens despite having some of the presumably most expensive to train and run models.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#174I knew this was going to happen. It’s just part of Dario’s hype strategy.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#175Anybody else find Fable almost unusable because of the safeguards? I generally can't get more than 2 minutes into a task without it auto-switching back to opus..
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#176The drug dealer sample strategy seems to work good for them.
Does it? Maybe. But I've grown weary of it. It feels like I'm in a relationship with a mercurial partner, never quite knowing where I stand.
I think it does. I know this is through Microsoft, but they give you a month free of Cowork which is currently Opus 4.8 (or at least they did for us) and I doubt we'd ever go back. When I say "we" it's the enterprise organisation "we", but this also where this sort of spending won't stop anyone. I can't go into exact details, but if our first month had not been free, then our most expensive user would've hit around $1000, while our average (among users who've adopted it and actually use it) is around $100. Neither of those numbers would matter in a budget.
I've had the pleasure of setting up limits because Microsoft needed billing policies before our C-levels have even gotten it on their agenda. So I set up a sort of conservative $200 personal limit, but then setup a $1m shared limit pool that anyone can be moved into with management approval. I suspect our limits will be much higher than this once the C-levels make the decision on an actual company policy. I think we'll see these spending limits mainly used as guardrails to prevent accidental spending, but that there will not really be a ceiling, just some approval gates. Some managers are already requesting usage reports, but not to track spending, they want to see who uses too little AI.
This is the difference between enterprise and small companies and individuals. When you spend $500k a month keeping your toilets stacked with papertowels, toiletpaper, soap etc. then $1m a month on AI isn't going to raise any eyebrows.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#177Getting on and off fable this week has been quite interesting. For my personal work stream (big terraform monorepo, hundreds of states) I’ve using mostly superpowers to do heavy / quality work. But with fable, I tried just telling it what to do, and it produced roughly the same results without a big structured back and forth that I was accustomed to. Then after using up all my fable allowance I figured let’s see if o…
This is an interesting comment because it makes me want to ask the question, what is the use for fable then? For me, GPT 5.4 is enough when using recursive-mode. I do appreciate GPT 5.5 Pro for some larger research, architecture, planning tasks though. I think that's what Fable is for. A very small % of total work.
What is the use of a genius who does great work but doesn’t document their results, only produces them? How much do companies enjoy having a structural dependency on someone like that?
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#178Anybody else find Fable almost unusable because of the safeguards? I generally can't get more than 2 minutes into a task without it auto-switching back to opus..
I'm in the biomedical field so yes, it drops to Opus 4.8 straight away due to safeguards.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#179These comments feel like kids and their parent Anthropic.
"For summer, you're becoming a big boy so we've made the decision to increase your allowance."
You are an adult, why are you using a service that treats you like a child?
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#180for the first time, I'm rooting for the chinese to break the american monopoly on AI. although I have gemini, anthropic and openai subscriptions, I just opened an OpenRouter account and will be using more chinese open weights going forward.
IMHE the models work much better if you go directly to the creator's API. DeepSeek V4 official API gives me 8x better caching so it was 40% cheaper in my case. Unless it bothers you China gets your data instead of giving it to the American VC-backed companies.
It also prefer to give my money to the pro-social companies giving away their open models (they cost many millions) instead of opportunists who don't give much back.