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How to Build a Minimal ZFS NAS Without Synology, QNAP, TrueNAS (2024)

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Re: How to Build a Minimal ZFS NAS Without Synology, QNAP, TrueNAS (2024)

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Post by Fr0styMatt88 »

Confiks wrote: post #7

Not a great time price-wise to be building a NAS, but I have been doing so for the last two weeks. Inside a Jonsbo N6 case, which is pretty nice with an 8x SATA backplane and drive bays (unlike the earlier Jonsbo variants). I ended up on shucking 4x the 14 TB WD Elements Desktop. They contain helium drives, the WD140EDGZ in my case, and are about a third cheaper than 4x the 12 TB WD Red Plus drives (which are air-fil…

I’m running an 8-drive ZFS RAIDZ2 pool. I’m wondering if you know — are the free space recommendations around ZFS cargo or real?

Like I’m already giving up two full drives for redundancy (which saved my ass - I recently had two drives fail on me in quick succession — both SSDs from what looks like an identical batch) but then the advice is kinda saying I need to keep at least another drive worth of space free for the pool to perform well and not crap itself. That hurts with current prices for sure.

Re: How to Build a Minimal ZFS NAS Without Synology, QNAP, TrueNAS (2024)

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Post by _nhh »

shrubble wrote: post #34
AceJohnny2 wrote: post #14

Tangential, but about this: > I am creating a RAIDZ1 (RAID 5) zpool. That means 1 drive redundancy in-case of failure A friend once told me that RAID5 has a high latency cost, because every Write requires a Read to update the stripes across all drives, and while this made sense when drives were expensive, nowadays you might as well do a RAID10 instead, and trade space for latency. Is this still true with ZFS RAIDZ1?

The RAID5 write hole is not present in RAIDZ1 I believe.

RAIDZ1 will add more stress to the consumer ssd's as to enterprise one due to surprinsingly different hardware. Consumer ssd's life times are calculated on a 8 hour shift (the tbw) and enterprise are calculated on 24/7.

Please - dont - use - consumer ssd's - with zfs raidz1

Re: How to Build a Minimal ZFS NAS Without Synology, QNAP, TrueNAS (2024)

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Post by Fr0styMatt88 »

simondotau wrote: post #20
Khaine wrote: post #2

Can anyone recommend a good server for a homelab to use for a storage purpose like this?

Not strictly a recommendation, but Terramaster is a good brand to look at if you want Synology-shaped hardware which can run TrueNAS or Proxmox or any flavour of Linux you want. Along with various other devices (including a large Synology which I wouldn’t buy today), I run Proxmox on a small two bay+two nvme Terramaster. I have a bare bones Ubuntu LXC running Samba configured for Apple Time Machine, an VM running Scr…

I have the F8 Plus, great little unit. It did need a BIOS update when I first got it to enable Proxmox/other OSes to work properly.

Recently replaced the internal USB boot drive with a small NVMe USB enclosure; using a 90-degree USB connector and using a dremel to sand away an opening for the cable to come out so I could mount the enclosure externally.

Re: How to Build a Minimal ZFS NAS Without Synology, QNAP, TrueNAS (2024)

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Post by ahofmann »

wyager wrote: post #38
beagle3 wrote: post #3

I still pay for snooty, and the reason for that is that when a disk goes bad (not if; when) I pop its tray out, replace the disk, pop the tray with the disk back in, click a couple of widgets, and that’s it. I know it will be rebuilt properly. (And I know I have to do that, because when the disk fails it beeps and lights a led near the bad disk) It’s easy to build a NAS such as the one described in this article, but…

ZFS makes this completely trivial except for the "beeps and lights a led" part

To be fair, the "beeps and lights a led" part is very important in case of a dead disk in an array. The only time, I disrupted a service in production for longer than a few hours was when I didn't get the email of a degraded raid 1 array and the second disk died a few weeks later.

Re: How to Build a Minimal ZFS NAS Without Synology, QNAP, TrueNAS (2024)

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Post by INTPenis »

One alternative for those who don't want any of the major NAS vendors, just use RHEL10. It's free up to 16 licenses, it's ultra stable, cockpit is a very mature gui for a lot of maintenance tasks.

It's a set and forget OS that will run for years without requiring your attention. But these days it has decent container support for hosting services on.

Re: How to Build a Minimal ZFS NAS Without Synology, QNAP, TrueNAS (2024)

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Post by theNotFractured »

INTPenis wrote: post #49

One alternative for those who don't want any of the major NAS vendors, just use RHEL10. It's free up to 16 licenses, it's ultra stable, cockpit is a very mature gui for a lot of maintenance tasks. It's a set and forget OS that will run for years without requiring your attention. But these days it has decent container support for hosting services on.

Or rocky, which is a 1:1 clone of RHEL that doesn't require licenses. https://rockylinux.org/
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