for the first time, I'm rooting for the chinese to break the american monopoly on AI. although I have gemini, anthropic and openai subscriptions, I just opened an OpenRouter account and will be using more chinese open weights going forward.
We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
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Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#72Getting on and off fable this week has been quite interesting. For my personal work stream (big terraform monorepo, hundreds of states) I’ve using mostly superpowers to do heavy / quality work. But with fable, I tried just telling it what to do, and it produced roughly the same results without a big structured back and forth that I was accustomed to. Then after using up all my fable allowance I figured let’s see if o…
This is an interesting comment because it makes me want to ask the question, what is the use for fable then? For me, GPT 5.4 is enough when using recursive-mode. I do appreciate GPT 5.5 Pro for some larger research, architecture, planning tasks though. I think that's what Fable is for. A very small % of total work.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#73Still definitely not trying it if I'm gonna lose access on my subscription plan.
"First hit is free", indeed.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#74If they pair this with a reset, then it will be good news. Otherwise we all just rushed to use our quota before the July 7th deadline for nothing. Corollary: use your quota now because a reset seems likely.
it's incredible how volatile the product and pricing situation is right now. i struggle to find an equivalent industry that has been so all over the place and obtuse
> i struggle to find an equivalent industry that has been so all over the place and obtuse
No surprises, it's fundamentally built on promises and lies
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#75On July 12th they will extend it again.
Perhaps. I don’t blame them for short horizons given capacity constraints, government mayhem, etc. Promising anything more than a week at a time seems fraught.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#76I have a really hard time understanding how anyone is ready to pay $200/mo to be put on such a rollercoaster all the time . I've used fable, it's great. But nothing beats predictability - ever. This truly feels like some form of emotional abuse/manipulation at this point.
I pay $200/mo because my opus usage alone is >$10k/mo at api rates. Do you think I’m making a mistake?
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is the first I'm hearing about a usage cut. Do you have a link to an announcement for this? Search hasn't shown anything.
Yeah it's right here: https://x.com/ClaudeDevs/status/2054639777685934564 It's not phrased as a usage cut, but rather when their 50% higher limits ends. EDIT: its 33.3% less usage after July 13th
That’s not a cut? They gave you extra usage for a set time period, it was never part of your subscription.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Subscription is ~$200/month. When I tried running on tokens it was ~$500/day for the same usage pattern. My guess is my usage is atypically high, but even if the average equivalent is $100-250/day you can get a sense of how much Anthropic is subsidizing subscriptions as a loss leader to lock market share. IMHO this is a doomed strategy since open models will get into a long tail of parity and they’ll ultimately essen…
I think you need to consider how much dev mindshare you get from the loss-leader. Claude has grown at an insane rate. They brought vibe-coding mainstream. At some point they might decide they have enough demand and inertia from enterprise to reduce the subsidy. But to say “it’s doomed” really misses the fact that it has already been immensely successful.
We can switch in a heartbeat to a competitor, what kept us to Claude was that it had better models for a while. Closing Fable off means they are squarely inferior now.
For me Opus 4.8 was a slow model with a strong habit of talking down to me in an obnoxious way that would not be possible to prompt away. GPT 5.5 is now my main driver for serious work.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#79I have a really hard time understanding how anyone is ready to pay $200/mo to be put on such a rollercoaster all the time . I've used fable, it's great. But nothing beats predictability - ever. This truly feels like some form of emotional abuse/manipulation at this point.
I would pay vastly more, I think it’s incredible value. If I had no other choice I think I’d pay up to $1K per day. The amount of work I’m getting through is absolutely immense.
Same. I don’t know what Mickey Mouse work people are doing that 4.8 is “enough”. CRUD apps maybe?
I have some serious Bayesian statistical research programs running and Fable is on another level than 4.8. It feels like Andrew Gelman is supervising it. Even the vision model on Fable is superior to 4.8 which is great for having it digest research papers.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#80does it matter much? i find my claude code experience always downgraded from fable to opus anyway.