Anyone remember that blog post from a few months back where someone was able to improve a model's math ability by just duplicating layers that were activated while solving math problems? Just literally copy/pasting them and linking them together so the model ran through the same layers again? I get the feeling a lot more research is going to come out in the area of exploring exactly what portions of a model's weights…
it makes you wonder if it may be more efficient to spend all the weights on one layer, and have a repeating stack of the same layer, one would presume this axis has already been explored with metaparameter sweeps?
A global workspace in language models
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it makes you wonder if it may be more efficient to spend all the weights on one layer, and have a repeating stack of the same layer, one would presume this axis has already been explored with metaparameter sweeps?
That's called a recurrent neural network (RNN).
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Its also because the CoT is probably unintelligible
More legible than seems at first glance: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/wCSEpT3dTGz4N86Wi/even-illeg...
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#204This reminded me of some weird quirk/experiment I found with LLMs that I found while messing around, maybe someone can explain it or something. Open any AI chatbot that isn't cheating by connecting to the Internet (so disable web search). Claude, DeepSeek, Kimi, whatever. Ask them this question: "What was that weird band from michigan from the 2000s that wore coloured ties" You will probably get a wrong answer, or if…
Hate to break it to you but Gemini 3.1 Flash-lite with grounding disabled (through the API) gets this first try, even with thinking disabled.
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I dont understand what your comment is referring to
In the second figure with the title "Functional roles of the global workspace" the third example asks this question and the model answers incorrectly.
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If I ask my kid (early elementary) what he learned last school year, I can watch him apparently genuinely trying to think of some examples and not being very successful. If I ask him something I know he learned he’ll gladly say “oh yeah!” and tell me about it.
LLMs aren't humans, humans aren't LLMs. The fact that your kid can't recall what they learned without you reminding them is natural; the fact that the LLM can't recall something without a reprompt is a failure mode.
It's almost as if artificial neural nets share emergent behavior with natural neural nets.
Pop quiz, what's the difference between natural synthesized vanillin and artificially synthesized vanillin?
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#207Anyone else have tips for how to build skepticism around this type of paper? I find myself for whatever reason more readily inclined to believe the Anthropic mech interp team's claims, but then after reading skeptical takes, I 'snap out of it' and more clearly see the still-unsettled science of it all, but I wish I had better priors. Although I follow this space fairly closely (versus the "average person"), I still f…
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#208Good interpretability work, but the problem is it's all in how you interpret it. Bridge concept neurons activating even while talking about something else, this seems pretty obvious to me. Input context activating related representations is just an engineering causal structure. Call it subconscious or don't, either interpretation works. But Anthropic keeps drawing these parallels to human consciousness, and it feels…
This is a wonderful way to put it
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There was a series of blog posts posted to HN a while ago investigating how models behave on similar prompts in different languages. To paraphrase the results: the first couple layers map the query to some internal encoding that's mostly independent of the language. Then there are layers in the middle, then the last couple layers map the result back to the target language. You can actually take those middle layers an…
Thanks! Any rough guesses how the jlens might work? I can’t even seem to hazard a conception.
It's still not clear to me intuitively what this represents though. I get that it somehow encodes a link between future words the model says and the current activation, but the confusing thing is that I always think of derivatives and gradients as basically a "sensitivity" between output & input, i.e. if you nudge the input x by h, the output changes by h * f'(x). So then on the face of it applying the J-lens matrix directly to a given activation rather than a small perterbation seems like a "type" issue.
Maybe we're somehow treating f(0) = 0 so that you can apply it directly? Or is there some shift invariance somehow? ignoring that, I do see how it's like selecting a linear combination of the directions, and then it can maybe be represented as "possible continuations" in the same way the gradient is usually thought of as tangent space. Maybe that's what the other commenters meant by information geometric approach.
Other things i'm not clear about is how this is related to two other interprability methods: * SAE (sparse auto encoder) they showed a few months back, where you train an autoencoder directly off of the hidden states/residual stream to convert it into words. The doc only mentions it briefly, but it seems that j-lens is sensitive to things that SAE are not. They're both working off of the same residual stream so clearly the the inputs must be there, but for some reason SAEs can't detect it while J-lens can (they seem to hint at some explanation but it's over my head)
* Logit lens. This was a more primitive technique that simply applies the unembedding matrix directly to the residual stream. I do like that they mention it:
>The J-lens can be understood as a principled refinement of the logit lens. While the logit lens assumes that representations use the same coordinates in all layers, the Jacobian lens corrects for representational changes that take place across layers, allowing it to uncover meaningful information in earlier layers where the logit lens produces uninterpretable readouts... The J-lens can be understood as the principled correction: J_l is precisely the average linear map that relates layer-l directions to their final-layer counterparts.
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#210Well, isn't it sort of expected? It's a common misconception that LLMs residual exists for predicting just the next token. While training, we sum/average the losses across whole sequence which puts the pressure to predict future tokens on residual stream of _all_ past tokens. For example, if a particular shape of residual helps reduce loss across several future tokens, it will take that shape (even if it takes a slig…
I think what's unexpected is that it seems that some cases of model errors are truly caused by the model being misaligned? In the "Catching a model fabricating data" example I would have thought that it was just the model being stupid and not understanding the intent of the question, but as per its J-Space, it seems the model is "aware" in some sense that it's manipulating/faking data? There is also now a deeper ques…