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odd name; shouldn't it be named after something that stealthily infiltrates fortresses?
Trojan Horse probably wouldn't make a very good name for a browser.
Is it ethical to scrape when a site has explicitly blocked bots? I know a fair number of people who run small sites who are already considering closing them down because the bots are relentlessly hammering their sites and driving up hosting costs.
Is it ethical to scrape when a site has explicitly blocked bots? I know a fair number of people who run small sites who are already considering closing them down because the bots are relentlessly hammering their sites and driving up hosting costs.
I think it really depends on how the bot is run. If the bot is replacing me navigating there manually, absolutely. If it’s sucking up content to rip off and make someone else billions of dollars, no.
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I think it really depends on how the bot is run. If the bot is replacing me navigating there manually, absolutely. If it’s sucking up content to rip off and make someone else billions of dollars, no.
Why do you feel entitled to navigate to a website you neither own nor pay for via a method the owner expressly forbids?
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Why do you feel entitled to navigate to a website you neither own nor pay for via a method the owner expressly forbids?
Why do you feel entitled to dictate what user agent I use, if it’s well-behaved?
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Why do you feel entitled to dictate what user agent I use, if it’s well-behaved?
Why do your opinions about what a "well-behaved" agent is override the wishes of a site's owner?
For a non-AI example I run into occasionally, any wish to stop time-shifting should not be relevant to what I choose to do as a media consumer.
Is it ethical to scrape when a site has explicitly blocked bots? I know a fair number of people who run small sites who are already considering closing them down because the bots are relentlessly hammering their sites and driving up hosting costs.
Ethical? ppl get jailed in China for this. "Breaching computer systems" is a felony.
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Why do your opinions about what a "well-behaved" agent is override the wishes of a site's owner?
Site owners should not have full control over what users do. Their wishes do not apply past certain boundaries. For a non-AI example I run into occasionally, any wish to stop time-shifting should not be relevant to what I choose to do as a media consumer.
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Site owners should not have full control over what users do. Their wishes do not apply past certain boundaries. For a non-AI example I run into occasionally, any wish to stop time-shifting should not be relevant to what I choose to do as a media consumer.
There actually is a well defined demarcation point where the site owners wishes do apply. It's called... A demarc point! Everything that happens past this point is by definition entirely in the control of the admin. Which includes closing the door on whoever they wish. This is a technical reality, not something you can effect with opinions or wanting things more than other people want other things. It might seem cont…