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98% isn't much

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Re: 98% isn't much

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I enjoyed reading the acceptable food contamination levels relating to rodent feces, Insects, bone, set by the FDA.

Likewise anyone with anaphlaxis in themselves or family will be familiar with the risk equation of "may contain" distinct from simple food adulteration: May contain is probably safer than some random restaurant using "cumin" which has nuts in it as a cheap substitution up the supply chain with no declaration.

Re: 98% isn't much

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Former chef here (2 Michelin starred restaurants). 5% is beyond plenty; it is awesome! > works for 98% of the population, that means that it won’t work for ~150 million people If I can only cook for 70 people a night, I most likely can't serve the ~150 million people who do not have access to modern browsers. And, those who do have access to those browsers and choose not use those browsers likely will not enjoy my fo…

This reply doesn’t apply to the article, at least not the way you think it does. (1) The article is talking about how dissatisfying 2% of your market is not a small issue. And the 2% of the market the website dissatisfies are unable to express the feedback reliably. You are talking about cooking in the same room/ship as your customer, which has a fast and reliable feedback cycle. Your scenario has the advantage of be…

Thank you for the thoughtful reply.

I would make the argument that people would have to weigh the cost of being accessible to the last 2% vs the cost of losing the last 2%.

Anyone who delivers mail to rural farmers 100 years ago would lose money. There are 3 options. 1. If farmers want mail, they can pay the extra costs. 2. Force, by law, mail carriers to deliver at a loss to farmers. 3. Rural Free Delivery, the government taxes everyone and pays for the free delivery to farmers.

Although almost all farmers in the United States and a majority of users on Hacker News would disagree with me, the answer is the government should continue to deliver free mail to rural farmers. The collective benefit outweighs the cost.

Re: 98% isn't much

#323

> Can you imagine a venue refusing entry to former clients 2% of the time just because they’ve “improved their experience”? The web has been doing this since, when, the 90's? I use Firefox. In the last year, suddenly quite a few web sites have just stopped working on it for me. Firefox is over 2% market share.

That's old data? It's under 2% now.

The source I checked has it above 2%. I'm looking across all platforms (desktop, mobile, etc).

Re: 98% isn't much

#324

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Maybe, or maybe there is no yacht and no 2 star restaurant. Since your profile doesn't have any personal info (which is certainly your right, mind) I have only one data point and it tilts towards the latter.

It has a full name and personal website link in one of the comments, which contains a link to their food photography page saying that cooking used to be their profession. I would assume that should be enough to at least believe it in the absence of evidence showing otherwise, but I guess we aren't treating replies in good faith anymore here.

No, it's just one person, not all of HN, and I can't imagine why the contention.

Re: 98% isn't much

#325
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When will Microsoft stop doing Windows 10 security updates? I have a 10 year old laptop with 32GB of RAM, GTX 970 6GB and an SSD. For many things it is better than any 16GB work issued laptop (that often come with integrated cards - so you wont be able to run any AI model on them). Although the old ssd is starting to show its age (perhaps a full system reinstall would solve this, other option is to get a new one). Th…

> When will Microsoft stop doing Windows 10 security updates? Last October, unless you are on an LTS type version - in which case somewhere between 2028-2032 (depending on the exact version). Edge will still update until at least 2028 even though the OS stopped receiving updates... though I'm not sure I would wish either of those usage scenarios on someone :). > The old laptop does not have UEFI so it could not get t…

If you're willing to register for stuff then you can still get updates for normal Windows 10.

Re: 98% isn't much

#326
A website dedicated to promoting LASIK says the surgery “boasts a success rate of at least 96%”, and a satisfaction rate of 95%. “Long-term or chronic dry eye affects only a small minority (about 4%)” while cases requiring follow-up treatments are “typically under 5%”.

These numbers have never been particularly reassuring to me.

Re: 98% isn't much

#327

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Yeah, when I read the article I thought "Great, more paternalistic advice that pretends we have infinite resources/time/money." Anyone who has ever done website or mobile development knows there is a huge array of browsers and platforms, and supporting the very long tail of configurations is sometimes nearly impossible, let alone almost never cost effective. When I last ran some web apps, we'd see substantial numbers…

He wasn’t actually giving a blanket directive. The article was suggesting that you think about whether 98% is actually good in your use case by doing the math and thinking.

98% of HN commenters reply to the interpretation of the article they feel most capable of arguing against, which is usually the least charitable one.

Re: 98% isn't much

#328

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This reply doesn’t apply to the article, at least not the way you think it does. (1) The article is talking about how dissatisfying 2% of your market is not a small issue. And the 2% of the market the website dissatisfies are unable to express the feedback reliably. You are talking about cooking in the same room/ship as your customer, which has a fast and reliable feedback cycle. Your scenario has the advantage of be…

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I would make the argument that people would have to weigh the cost of being accessible to the last 2% vs the cost of losing the last 2%. Anyone who delivers mail to rural farmers 100 years ago would lose money. There are 3 options. 1. If farmers want mail, they can pay the extra costs. 2. Force, by law, mail carriers to deliver at a loss to farmers. 3. Rural Free Delivery, the gove…

Why would farmers disagree?

Re: 98% isn't much

#329

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Yeah, but the guy writing the article seems to be bad at math and thinking. Can I imagine a venue kicking out 2% of their former clients on some criteria? Absolutely yes. Kicking out 2% of website visitors may still be totally reasonable if the cost to serve them is meaningful, or if they are less than 2% of revenue. His defense for 98% being bad is that some CSS thing people were arguing about only had 70% coverage…

I think you're not being generous in your interpretation. How I read it he could be talking about the number of 9s a server's uptime is. If you pay for 1 9 you'll lose a lot of customers. Hell, true for even 3 9's. Look at all the complaints about GitHub this year. 5 9's is the standard and that's 99.999%!! The thing is that it is all context dependent. A lot of times 0.1% is nothing and can be ignored or pushed off.…

He is saying the most inane things ever, I don't know why I need to be charitable here.

Re: 98% isn't much

#330

Alternatively, 98% is plenty . If your business plan requires you to capitalize on more than 98% of the market, it's already a failure. It'll never happen. As always, it's an "it depends" situation. If your userbase is largely luddites, then maybe you need to support 10+ year old browsers that can't be updated. Otherwise, you can probably just worry about people who are using computers new enough to actually update t…

There's no reason code complexity or engineering time has to increase. You can just use the older version features everywhere instead of forking the supported versions.
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