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Re: Herdr: One terminal to rule them all

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Post by derdi »

colesantiago wrote: post #12

I read the website and still don't understand what this solves. Doesn't tmux and zellij do all of these things that 'herdr' does?

This 6-minute video (linked from the website) demoes it nicely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnIu-Xu64H0

It sets up a bunch of panes for you and tracks your agents' status and everything is clickable. You could probably do much of the same by setting up tmux appropriately. Or you could use this, which is already set up.

I tried herdr today, and it's not bad. Better than my previous many terminal tabs. Copy-and-paste is wonky (and it's ridiculous that copying is documented in multiple places in the docs, but pasting is never mentioned). And when an agent is waiting for a shell command, it shows as "idle", which IMO is wrong. Still, seems OK so far, I'll stick with it for a while.

Re: Herdr: One terminal to rule them all

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Post by nijave »

linsomniac wrote: post #19
dbl000 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this different from sshing into a server and attaching to a tmux session? I don't see the benefits in switching over.

The primary benefit I've gotten over just a straight tmux session is that there is a collapsable left "tab" bar that shows you your different workspaces, which you can relabel, and below that is a list of the agents you are running (claude code, codex, etc) along with their status (idle, blocked, working). So I will start a workspace for each different thing I'm working on, label it "Studio Shed Packet", "Teapot game…

You can rename the tabs in tmux but not sure if there's a way to do dynamic status (I suspect there is but it's probably non trivial to get it to play nice with the harness)

Re: Herdr: One terminal to rule them all

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Post by spudlyo »

nijave wrote: post #38
spudlyo wrote: post #8

So I've tried to figure out why you might want to use this over Tmux, and essentially I think it comes to down to: - everything is mouse clickable - tmux style display-popups are used for friendly UI interactions everywhere - it has a UI for agents running in panes, with a cool status (idle/working) display - has opinionated defaults like automatic clipboard copy on mouse text select - makes nested sessions easier &…

tmux has a mouse switch--does this do more than that?

I think that just enables xterm mouse support, and allows for various mouse key bindings in tmux. I think the deal is that it's turned on by default, and lots of the UI elements by default are configured with mouse bindings. Not just selecting and resizing panes, you can right click on a pane or a workspace and one of those display-popups pops up with a "rename" dialog box.

I think this is why it's described as "mouse first" terminal.

Re: Herdr: One terminal to rule them all

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Post by ahmadyan »

dagss wrote: post #6

Is there git worktree support? With the long waits for agents to do stuff I really don't see how one can get anything done without multitasking with multiple worktrees in parallel. So I'd want support for listing the worktrees and then have a list of agents within each worktree. Emdash and Nimbalyst have this kind of UI. Unfortunately both of them want to manage the state of each worktree group themselves; I'm lookin…

git worktrees are managed by git, not the IDEs. e.g. at agentastic.dev, we use git's worktree command to create them, and they should be portable to any other IDE or app.

Re: Herdr: One terminal to rule them all

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Post by emosenkis »

I thought for a minute that they had built agent support for all terminals, which would render obsolete https://terminai.app which I just released. Luckily for me, this is on the other end of the spectrum. Maybe there would even be a use case for running herdr as the AI CLI inside of terminai.

Re: Herdr: One terminal to rule them all

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Post by vadepaysa »

I saw this trending on github yesterday and tried it and liking it so far. What I like: - familiar tmux like key binding (configurable) interface - comes with all the tmux advantages like detach, ssh etc - mouse - nice sidebar

I prefer to manage my worktrees manually with a super simple script.

Re: Herdr: One terminal to rule them all

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Post by dagss »

ahmadyan wrote: post #44
dagss wrote: post #6

Is there git worktree support? With the long waits for agents to do stuff I really don't see how one can get anything done without multitasking with multiple worktrees in parallel. So I'd want support for listing the worktrees and then have a list of agents within each worktree. Emdash and Nimbalyst have this kind of UI. Unfortunately both of them want to manage the state of each worktree group themselves; I'm lookin…

git worktrees are managed by git, not the IDEs. e.g. at agentastic.dev, we use git's worktree command to create them, and they should be portable to any other IDE or app.

Of course. But I prefer IDEs that group and name the agent sessions by the worktree they are tasked with automatically.

Re: Herdr: One terminal to rule them all

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Post by benrutter »

spudlyo wrote: post #8

So I've tried to figure out why you might want to use this over Tmux, and essentially I think it comes to down to: - everything is mouse clickable - tmux style display-popups are used for friendly UI interactions everywhere - it has a UI for agents running in panes, with a cool status (idle/working) display - has opinionated defaults like automatic clipboard copy on mouse text select - makes nested sessions easier &…

From what I can figure it is actively calling itself a multiplexer, so pretty closely linked to something like tmux (one of the review videos on the page calls it a "tmux rewrite").

But they seem to be targeting very different scopes use wise.

I think if you use this to do stuff like, edit files, run htop, drop into an interactive shell, compile some code, my guess is you're gonna be fighting uphill and have a bad time.

On the other hand, if you're only using tmux so that you can have a bunch of terminal windows for agents. Then this is probably going to make your workflow a fair bit smoother.

Re: Herdr: One terminal to rule them all

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Post by orliesaurus »

kordlessagain wrote: post #14

I've been working on Hyperia, which is very similar: https://github.com/deepbluedynamics/hyperia . Hyperia is a fork of Hyper Terminal. Both are open source. Competition is good for this space, I think, especially for the user. There's also cmux and Intelligent Terminal (by Microsoft). I do separation of concerns with the agent orchestrator (Nemesis8): https://github.com/deepbluedynamics/nemesis8 . That can be run wi…

Cool that you're using Hyper Terminal as a starting point! What was the reason why you've added MCP to this? How is the intended use? I launch Claude Code on Hyperia and then Claude Code can open as many tabs as it wants inside of Hyperia? Or m I missing something
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