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Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

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Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#91
post #10

I was recently in the Uk and one of the cars I was in would alert the driver if he was over the speed limit. Fair enough. But the alert itself is distracting. Are we to review every single alert from these cameras? Is that not just another distraction?

if you watch European car enthusiast review videos, they nearly all start by showing what's required to disable all of the nannies.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#92
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lane assist is also genuinely dangerous when there's men at work on the road and they change the lanes, yet the car tries to stick to the painted ones and I have to fight the car to do what it has to do we don't kill nobody. Also happens it gets confused with freshly painted white/yellow lines when older are still visible.

Tell me you live in a civilised country without telling me you live in a civilised country. Over here, in Greece, whenever you try to avoid a pothole, a double-parked car, a cyclist, a pedestrian, a stray, ANYTHING, lane assist always tries its best to make you hit whatever you're trying to avoid.

When I loved in Guam we had a joke bout this:

How do you tell if someone is driving drunk?

They are driving straight!

With the unspoken part being anyone NOT drunk was weaving to dodge debris, potholes, etc.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#97
post #67

Ford has had that since Blue Cruise 2.0, or thereabouts. It really shocked me how often it catches my attention being diverted. Things like talking to my passengers, adjusting the climate controls, or eating- I'm not even talking about 'advanced distractions' like my phone. It also seemed really accurate. I never remember it beeping at me when I was actually paying attention. It's totally plausible to me that this ki…

> It also seemed really accurate. It's really not. When I'm cruising on the highway I like to rest my right wrist on the top of the wheel, which blocks the sensor. "Watch the road" "Watch the road" "Watch the road"

My Subaru Solterra / Toyota bz4X is the same way.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#98
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lane assist is also genuinely dangerous when there's men at work on the road and they change the lanes, yet the car tries to stick to the painted ones and I have to fight the car to do what it has to do we don't kill nobody. Also happens it gets confused with freshly painted white/yellow lines when older are still visible.

Tell me you live in a civilised country without telling me you live in a civilised country. Over here, in Greece, whenever you try to avoid a pothole, a double-parked car, a cyclist, a pedestrian, a stray, ANYTHING, lane assist always tries its best to make you hit whatever you're trying to avoid.

Earlier this year, I rented a new Toyota Camry (US model). It had lane assist, but it was very easy to override it. I didn't really have to fight it. (And that was nice. I've drive other cars where it was more of a battle.)

So, yeah, it's done badly some of the time. But it at least can be done well.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#99
post #79

All new cars. At this point I don't know if I'd buy anything made after 2008. Whenever I rent a new car around here (in the EU) I find them very annoying. The worst is the cruise control that tries to stick to the speed limit -- but its sensors don't always read the signs very well, so you'll often slow to 50 km/h (about 30 mph) for no reason. Then there's the incessant beeping at you, "lane assist" that you can't tu…

I have a Volkswagen ID3, I love the adaptive cruise control. Yes, it gets it wrong in some spots (signage isn't great here in Asturias, Spain), and it gets it wrong in both directions (too slow at certain locations, too fast in others). But I still appreciate the convenience of not having to keep an eye on the speed nor the distance between the my car and the vehicles in front of me when driving on the freeway, where…

But you do have to keep an eye on those things. It can make the adjustments but you can't take your eye off them.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#100

All new cars. At this point I don't know if I'd buy anything made after 2008. Whenever I rent a new car around here (in the EU) I find them very annoying. The worst is the cruise control that tries to stick to the speed limit -- but its sensors don't always read the signs very well, so you'll often slow to 50 km/h (about 30 mph) for no reason. Then there's the incessant beeping at you, "lane assist" that you can't tu…

Well yeah, that's the point. They want to enshitify cars and make driving as expensive and as annoying as possible to force people out of cars. They know they can't just ban cars outright, so they enshitify this little thing this year, mandate this other thing the next year, add a new tax/fee the next year, add a new restriction the next year, reduce speed limits the next year, etc., etc., all in the name of safety /…

You had a point until

> to force people out of cars.

All that stuff following is also nonsense.

“They” don’t want people out of cars, the companies want that sweet sweet revenue stream from vacuuming up data. That’s all this is

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