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Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

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Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

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1) Unplug the cellular modem. 2) Unplug the camera or put a piece of blackout tape over the lens. 3) Enjoy!

Both are illegal.

Under which juridiction? I doubt it is in any country of the EU.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#84
I have a 2012 Skoda Yeti, 170000 miles. Serviced every year, never had anything go wrong with it yet. If it starts costing me money I will buy a 2012 Skoda Yeti from Autotrader with 50000 miles on the clock. At my age that should just about do me :)

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#85

"self-driving safeguards fooled by $30 doll heads" https://electrek.co/2026/06/15/chinese-drivers-plastic-heads...

Uh, oh! That's great. Need to get an Arnold Rimmer or Captain Kirk one.

Of course, one wonders what the car does if the camera is blocked with a post-it. Will it just not work, or fall back on something else, like pressure at the steering wheel, like Tesla does ?

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#86
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Ford has had that since Blue Cruise 2.0, or thereabouts. It really shocked me how often it catches my attention being diverted. Things like talking to my passengers, adjusting the climate controls, or eating- I'm not even talking about 'advanced distractions' like my phone. It also seemed really accurate. I never remember it beeping at me when I was actually paying attention. It's totally plausible to me that this ki…

good way to get notification fatigue and tunnel vision. look ahead, ignore everything else and have a shocked pikachu face when you sideswipe someone because you're well trained to not check your blind spots

I need to call bullshit on this. I own the same system and it totally allows looking around for normal driving. Stare to the side or the center console for more than a few seconds and it will alert you - exactly at the point where it becomes recklessly unsafe to do so.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#87

Ford has had that since Blue Cruise 2.0, or thereabouts. It really shocked me how often it catches my attention being diverted. Things like talking to my passengers, adjusting the climate controls, or eating- I'm not even talking about 'advanced distractions' like my phone. It also seemed really accurate. I never remember it beeping at me when I was actually paying attention. It's totally plausible to me that this ki…

> It also seemed really accurate. I never remember it beeping at me when I was actually paying attention.

This is the exact opposite of my experience! The one time I tried BlueCruise, it went into "panic mode" every time I turned my head to check my blindspots.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#88
Designing this machine vision system is insurmountable. It will never be actually good at its stated purpose, because how much you can look through some window or glance back at your kids is decided by the outside environment and it will be impossible to fit accurate judgement of it in the computers in the car.

Also, lane assist fucking sucks. It places all cars in the same place on the road, i.e. all wear is in the same place as well, and in relation to the marked edges of the road, which often isn't the natural placing in curves and so on. As a consequence roads likely need maintenance more often, and as a proficient driver that does not let the car have opinions about placement on the road one commonly has much smaller margins when placing the car in the nice trajectory through a curve due to the sunken lanes from the assisted cars.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

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post #66
post #26

1) Unplug the cellular modem. 2) Unplug the camera or put a piece of blackout tape over the lens. 3) Enjoy!

2.5) Your car doesn’t start 3) Enjoy I will start now but I think not for long. “For your own safety we disabled your car”.

It won’t be long until someone finds a way to flash the firmware or install a bootleg sensor or something else. You can already get a lot “chipped” on VAG and BMW cars.

Re: Every new car sold in the European Union must include a driver monitoring camera

#90

Ok I'm a citizen of EU country. I don't consent, I don't agree. I want a car without inside cameras, without systems beeping, blinking, nor vibrating at me. Don't you ever move the steering wheel under my hands. Why I'm screaming into the void?

Thanksfully there are plenty of vehicles in the second hand market.
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