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Re: I'm Begging You to Leave Your AI Note-Taker at Home

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Re: Re: I'm Begging You to Leave Your AI Note-Taker at Home

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Post by hahahaa »

akersten wrote: post #10
john_strinlai wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and this happened in pretty much every significant business meeting i think the point being made is that you typically didn't bring your secretary with you, notepad and pen in hand, when you went down to the local coffee shop to catch up with someone.

Are AI-assistant-enriched coffee catch ups an actual thing that's happening or is OP inventing scenarios to be mad at?

With remote work the equivalent e.g. a quick social chat on zoom or 1-1 meeting is. We should be picky as to which ones we bring a not taker too.

As for a real coffee shop? There is a YC working on a bolt on recorder for your phone so yes. And black mirror is starting to look like a documentary at this point.

Re: Re: I'm Begging You to Leave Your AI Note-Taker at Home

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Post by fantasizr »

saaaaaam wrote: post #3

> Let's imagine for a second that the whole AI craze doesn't exist, but you still would want to real-time note-taker, what would you do? Indeed, you bring a literal third person to the table. That will just be sitting there, listening in on your conversation and writing everything down. That's what secretaries were, and this happened in pretty much every significant business meeting for a long long time.

my pet peeve is that these ai notetakers, like otter arrive to the web conf before their user.

Re: Re: I'm Begging You to Leave Your AI Note-Taker at Home

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Post by dmitrygr »

akersten wrote: post #10
john_strinlai wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and this happened in pretty much every significant business meeting i think the point being made is that you typically didn't bring your secretary with you, notepad and pen in hand, when you went down to the local coffee shop to catch up with someone.

Are AI-assistant-enriched coffee catch ups an actual thing that's happening or is OP inventing scenarios to be mad at?

I've had now-ex friends send me unsolicited ai-slop catch-up messages summarizing their life "since we last spoke".

Re: Re: I'm Begging You to Leave Your AI Note-Taker at Home

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Post by tristor »

advisedwang wrote: post #9
saaaaaam wrote: post #3

> Let's imagine for a second that the whole AI craze doesn't exist, but you still would want to real-time note-taker, what would you do? Indeed, you bring a literal third person to the table. That will just be sitting there, listening in on your conversation and writing everything down. That's what secretaries were, and this happened in pretty much every significant business meeting for a long long time.

This article and the one it is responding to are explicitly talking about non-business meeting contexts. They are talking about personal conversations, medical appointments and much more casual business contexts like informal interviews. Places where there would never have been a secretary present.

Does /anyone/ take notes in a personal context? I don't take notes when I catch up with friends, but neither does anyone else. It's a complete non-issue.

Re: Re: I'm Begging You to Leave Your AI Note-Taker at Home

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Post by Arainach »

ageyfman wrote: post #22
advisedwang wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This article and the one it is responding to are explicitly talking about non-business meeting contexts. They are talking about personal conversations, medical appointments and much more casual business contexts like informal interviews. Places where there would never have been a secretary present.

medical appointments is a perfect use case for ai note takers. Imagine you have an elderly parent who lives hundreds of miles away. You can't always be present for their medical appointments, yet, the outcomes of those appointments are critical, and sometimes information is shared in a way that the elderly parent cannot be a trustworthy source for that info. What do you do?

You make them get the results and guidance in writing, and if they forgot to get it in writing, you have them contact the provider and get it in writing. You don't send a tape recorder.

Re: Re: I'm Begging You to Leave Your AI Note-Taker at Home

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Post by [deleted] »

saaaaaam wrote: post #3

> Let's imagine for a second that the whole AI craze doesn't exist, but you still would want to real-time note-taker, what would you do? Indeed, you bring a literal third person to the table. That will just be sitting there, listening in on your conversation and writing everything down. That's what secretaries were, and this happened in pretty much every significant business meeting for a long long time.

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Re: Re: I'm Begging You to Leave Your AI Note-Taker at Home

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Post by tda »

ageyfman wrote: post #22
advisedwang wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This article and the one it is responding to are explicitly talking about non-business meeting contexts. They are talking about personal conversations, medical appointments and much more casual business contexts like informal interviews. Places where there would never have been a secretary present.

medical appointments is a perfect use case for ai note takers. Imagine you have an elderly parent who lives hundreds of miles away. You can't always be present for their medical appointments, yet, the outcomes of those appointments are critical, and sometimes information is shared in a way that the elderly parent cannot be a trustworthy source for that info. What do you do?

Record the audio, transcribe it later. Your AI note taker will mangle some of the details in a subtle but wrong way. Or not, who knows? But if you have ever transcribed anything with whisper, it is both amazing how well it works, and how it can go completely off the rails if there is a prolonged pause or noise. It will just make up words, fill the gaps. I am assuming the transcription process for an AI note taker will not use anything fundamentally different than Whisper

Re: Re: I'm Begging You to Leave Your AI Note-Taker at Home

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Post by zamadatix »

This is a reply to someone else's blog post (on a different site - odd concept, I kinda like it though). It may add a lot of context to read the original blog post https://www.joanwestenberg.com/p/im-begging-you-to-leave-you... first, which is linked in the header but easy to miss, and then read this reply.
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