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A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by dyauspitr »

I have learned so many complex things in my life but I can’t for the life of me seem to be able to learn knots. There was a period I had a rope on my desk I would practice them for a couple of months everyday. It’s been maybe 5 years since then and I can’t remember a single one.

Same thing with solving a rubics cube. I spent 3 months getting pretty good at it, like I could consistently solve them in under 15 secs. That was two years ago. I picked up a cube two months ago and tried to solve it and couldn’t remember even the first step. I had an app I used to set up, solve and track the cube and I logged 10,000+ solves and I can’t remember how to do it less than 2 years later. Sigh.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#142

Post by johschmitz »

Reminds me of the granny knot "advice" which I also saw on hackernews for the first time many years ago and which changed my live:

https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/grannyknot.htm

If you don't know about this problem yet, I strongly recommend to cross check if you have been tying it wrong for years!

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

throw101010 wrote: post #125
argee wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have round laces, Ian’s knot reliably comes undone. Ian’s secure shoelace knot is better in that case, though it’s slightly slower and trickier to do. The double Ian knot is interesting too, but it (and several other alternatives) won’t have the “pull just once to untie” mechanic.

Ian's knot doesn't come undone easily if you do it the right way, many people learn it incorrectly when they are young and never revisit it... but they are making Granny knots instead: https://tokay-ultimate.com/blogs/infos/how-to-tie-your-laces It's even more noticeable/frequent with round laces so that's what makes me suspect you might be a victim of this.

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Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#146

Post by stiglitz »

xp84 wrote: post #137
arijun wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bit off topic, but I hate that Ian just slapped his name on a knot and people call it that. He even has a little link on there saying "Yes I'm the inventor," which, if you click on it, amounts to "trust me bro." That knot was how my father learned to tie his shoes in the 60s, so Ian must have time-traveled back after "inventing" it in '82.

It never ceases to amaze me how reliably someone always appears to “well, actually” this issue whenever Ian comes up. Despite the fact that he has merely published all this info freely on the web for like 20+ years and never attempted to monopolize knot information, nor force anyone else to acknowledge him in any way. Like, if you want to, you could call it the “Ian Sucks” knot. Why care if he calls it ‘Ian Knot’? If…

I disagree- when I googled this knot I came immediately to https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknothistory.htm where this “Ian” fellow goes to great lengths to establish himself as the inventor. Screenshot of a davinciesque yellowed inventor’s notebook and so forth.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#147

Post by andrewflnr »

xp84 wrote: post #137
arijun wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bit off topic, but I hate that Ian just slapped his name on a knot and people call it that. He even has a little link on there saying "Yes I'm the inventor," which, if you click on it, amounts to "trust me bro." That knot was how my father learned to tie his shoes in the 60s, so Ian must have time-traveled back after "inventing" it in '82.

It never ceases to amaze me how reliably someone always appears to “well, actually” this issue whenever Ian comes up. Despite the fact that he has merely published all this info freely on the web for like 20+ years and never attempted to monopolize knot information, nor force anyone else to acknowledge him in any way. Like, if you want to, you could call it the “Ian Sucks” knot. Why care if he calls it ‘Ian Knot’? If…

They shouldn't be mad at you at much as dismiss you. You should admit that sticking to it and trying to make other people acknowledge it is ridiculous, a joke at best.

If you've "invented" some relatively simple combination of existing pieces, the only sensible and humble thing to do is acknowledge that you're probably not the first one.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#148

Post by loganc2342 »

johschmitz wrote: post #142

Reminds me of the granny knot "advice" which I also saw on hackernews for the first time many years ago and which changed my live: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/grannyknot.htm If you don't know about this problem yet, I strongly recommend to cross check if you have been tying it wrong for years!

And you’ve just payed it forward by changing my life in turn. Thanks for sharing!

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#149

Post by [deleted] »

throw101010 wrote: post #125
argee wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have round laces, Ian’s knot reliably comes undone. Ian’s secure shoelace knot is better in that case, though it’s slightly slower and trickier to do. The double Ian knot is interesting too, but it (and several other alternatives) won’t have the “pull just once to untie” mechanic.

Ian's knot doesn't come undone easily if you do it the right way, many people learn it incorrectly when they are young and never revisit it... but they are making Granny knots instead: https://tokay-ultimate.com/blogs/infos/how-to-tie-your-laces It's even more noticeable/frequent with round laces so that's what makes me suspect you might be a victim of this.

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Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

mito88 wrote: post #138
wccrawford wrote: post #45

I did this for a while after seeing that video, but after some of my shorts ended up tightening into a knot that I couldn't get loose easily, I gave up on it. I instead just use the "Ian Knot" that I use to tie my shoes. It's very quick, I already use it all the time anyhow, and it rarely goes wrong. (Sometimes, I think I end up with an end through a loop accidentally, and have to fix it.) Learning this extra knot di…

couldn't find the ian knot on this app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nynix.knot...

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