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Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by shrinks99 »

nunobrito wrote: post #7

Anyone here has been using coMaps and care to share their experience, especially in comparison to OrganicMaps? My only complaint to OrganicMaps was the slowness to calculate a direction, which in part is certainly because the path is calculated locally instead of some cloud server but old garmin devices also weren't online and can calculate paths on far less powerful hardware. So I'm guessing there is room for improv…

I prefer CoMaps' tile styling, they did a bunch of updates to it early on to differentiate it from OrganicMaps, IMO it's much nicer.

CoMaps also has a better system for distributing map data now which isn't bound to app updates. Not sure if this has made its way back to the other app, but it's quite nice.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by _factor »

duxup wrote: post #176
_factor wrote: post #163

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Your accusatory ignorance is not mine to relieve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor

That doesn’t seem to fit the scenario described earlier. You don’t have to explain anything… that’s your call. A claim with nothing to support it doesn’t change either.

You need to work on your reading comprehension. I am not the parent.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by wlesieutre »

motoroco wrote: post #179
wlesieutre wrote: post #167

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Very cool! That solves creating and saving a route with extra navigation waypoints, so the other thing I'd want out of it is a native app with CarPlay where I can get total time/distance remaining, time/distance to next stop, and the option to pick which waypoints count as "stops" (versus just being there to control the route). I see there's a GPX export but I'm sure that won't handle the waypoints how I want it to.…

thanks for trying it out! I actually happen to have a trip planned for next month in Shenandoah and Blue Ridge Pkwy, looks like that loop is a little out of reach for us this trip but I want to go back to hit Tail of the Dragon and others I will make a native iOS app, but probably only after this summer roadtrip season passes. as far as CarPlay goes, I'll have to find a way to test that first (all my cars/bikes have…

CarPlay support can run in the simulator, obviously you'll need to fake the GPS location too for this to be useful. And you need to get special permission from Apple before you can even use the simulator, they keep CarPlay even more locked down than everything else.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/carplay/using-the-...

Between the three roads on my map I'd have to recommend Cherohala Skyway as my favorite drive. Only done it once, but it's a beautiful fun road with great scenic overlooks. Longer and more relaxing than Tail of the Dragon, and I'd rate it more enjoyable if not as exciting.

That's a car-based opinion though, can't speak to motorcycles.

https://www.visitmonroetn.com/cherohala-skyway

EDIT - a couple questions on pricing:

1) If I do one month on the paid plan to create a route, then cancel the subscription, do I still keep the route I made? Can I share and export, but no edits? Or can I still edit existing waypoints, but not add new ones? Realistically this is something I'd only use once or twice a year so I want to understand how the subscription structure fits with that.

2) How do collaborators work? I'm guessing only the route creator need a paid account, and other people can join it from free ones, but it would be helpful to clarify.

When you're working on the iOS app let me know if you need a beta tester!

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by ivanjermakov »

ponkipo wrote: post #75

I've read both Organic Maps thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48794446 (as it's my favorite map app I use for years around the world, and I'm an active OSM contributor as well) which quickly became overrun with CoMaps followers trash-talking about OM, now this thread appears. What I find interesting to see, and I think it's not just me who can see this - that basically every mention of CoMaps and why it is…

Long time OM user, just installed CoMaps. Basically the same app, except a few additional features. Increased label size is very nice! I struggle to read street names in OM while on bike.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by u8080 »

goobatrooba wrote: post #178
u8080 wrote: post #137

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> lead dev using donations to pay for holidays What's wrong with that?

If the donation is framed as a single developer benefitting it should be fine, but at least when I was donating that was framed as donations to the project which suggests something else. I'm fine with this use, rewarding a developer, but neither was this transparent nor was it fair for all others working on the project (and supposedly getting cost claims refused).

Guys in OM core dev team paying for hosting, app accounts, legal questions, etc(AFAIK, they subsidize all that from their own money because donations are not enough).

On top of that, they contribute years of man-hours for free to the project. I believe it is completely fair for hard-working dev to use donated money to have some rest.

Imo, consumers of all that good are too spoiled to also require strict discipline or transparency or even hating original authors(as seen on HN).

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by ivanjermakov »

kreco wrote: post #115

Sorry for the slight off-topic: Is there any standard protocol/format for "layers" that could be added to such Map apps? Let's say I want to write a plugin to add my own kind of data, and then I want to export this new kind of data so that someone can import them. Or I want to create a website with my own data on top of existing one.

If by layers you mean tiles, you can make a server providing ZXY tile images. Some OSM clients (e.g. BRouter) allow adding custom tile servers for baselayer and overlays.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_servers

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by einpoklum »

pietervdvn wrote: post #155
einpoklum wrote: post #131

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What do you mean, leaked? Isn't this a FOSS project? Why would it have secret code? Also "not surprising that OM banned you" - what process of adjudication was there before the project decided to ban someone who, by his description at least, is a key contributor? How was this person found guilty, and who decided on the penalty? --- PS - I'm not involved with any of OM, CoMaps, Maps.ME, and actually just found out the…

Not involved in OM or CoMaps at all; but involved in OpenStreetMap. > What do you mean, leaked? Isn't this a FOSS project? The client-app (CoMaps/Organic Maps) indeed is fully FLOSS. It uses OSM data, but that data is packaged into a specific and optimized format. The code _generating_ this optimized data (and serving it to the clients) was kept proprietary.

Hmm, keeping the server-side code proprietary is rather underhanded. Was the license of the "leaked" code actually proprietary? Anyway, sounds like the "leak" was in the public interest.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by duxup »

_factor wrote: post #182
duxup wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn’t seem to fit the scenario described earlier. You don’t have to explain anything… that’s your call. A claim with nothing to support it doesn’t change either.

You need to work on your reading comprehension. I am not the parent.

For someone worried about other people being “accusatory” you seem to be that way a lot.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by pastk »

einpoklum wrote: post #187
pietervdvn wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not involved in OM or CoMaps at all; but involved in OpenStreetMap. > What do you mean, leaked? Isn't this a FOSS project? The client-app (CoMaps/Organic Maps) indeed is fully FLOSS. It uses OSM data, but that data is packaged into a specific and optimized format. The code _generating_ this optimized data (and serving it to the clients) was kept proprietary.

Hmm, keeping the server-side code proprietary is rather underhanded. Was the license of the "leaked" code actually proprietary? Anyway, sounds like the "leak" was in the public interest.

The code in question was in Apache 2.0 repo and DCO signed agreeing its a public contribution.

Please see my post above for details.

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