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Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

glzone1 wrote: post #61
mjamesaustin wrote: post #11

Even better, buy direct from the manufacturer instead of Amazon. I've found most of the time you get the same price and free shipping without giving Jeff Bezos a dime.

I've had bad experiances trying this: - Return experience is TERRIBLE. I'm not kidding, with Amazon you've got one click to a QR code and a UPS store dropoff. Some of these mfgs you are jumping hoops for a week plus! And then have to box, buy a label, often pay for shipping and more. IF you can even get in touch with someone. - Shipping experience is TERRIBLE. How does FedEx stay in business? I'm serious - the expres…

Yeah, Amazon has disadvantages (counterfeits, fake reviews, more expensive) but its advantages (insane shipping speed/cost, strong return policy) are nearly impossible for competitors to compete with. The manufacturer is not going to offer same day delivery and no-questions-asked returns.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by alt227 »

BeetleB wrote: post #76

I should check my purchase history, but I probably use Amazon more for buying stuff that they would classify as a "Knockoff", but isn't (i.e. there is no established brand they are knocking off). Because for legitimate brands, I try to simply buy elsewhere. This is an example: https://www.amazon.com/MiiKARE-Universal-Rotating-Adjustable... You'll find lots of different manufacturers selling this on Amazon, but there…

Such a shame that easily broken and disposable pieces of plastic are shipped around the globe in huge numbers, all in the name of selfish first world comfort.

How future generations will look back at our convenience online ordering practices and be absolutely horrified at how we thought it was no issue to get some bit of plastic made in Asia and shipped over to US or Europe, then next or same day delivered just for for a few dollars/pounds.

Sorry OP, not aiming at you. You just triggered a sad rant.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by BeetleB »

jareklupinski wrote: post #78
BeetleB wrote: post #76

I should check my purchase history, but I probably use Amazon more for buying stuff that they would classify as a "Knockoff", but isn't (i.e. there is no established brand they are knocking off). Because for legitimate brands, I try to simply buy elsewhere. This is an example: https://www.amazon.com/MiiKARE-Universal-Rotating-Adjustable... You'll find lots of different manufacturers selling this on Amazon, but there…

> This is an example: https://www.amazon.com/MiiKARE-Universal-Rotating-Adjustable ... i wonder if it would be faster to 3d print that gadget than amazon prime it

I wouldn't trust a typical 3D printed one. My one has so many degrees of freedom/rotation - lots of moving parts.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by khazhoux »

kjellsbells wrote: post #5

Cuts two ways. Why should I pay $200 for a BigBrand dog bed if this knockoff site shows SHRDLU has the same thing for $40? We all know that BigBrand gets it from the same supplier. The real knockoff problem I see is that you buy what you think is BigBrand and get shipped Knockoff because someone is mingling inventory.

Knockoff shnockoff. You get an upvote for SHRDLU!

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by iwontberude »

jareklupinski wrote: post #78
BeetleB wrote: post #76

I should check my purchase history, but I probably use Amazon more for buying stuff that they would classify as a "Knockoff", but isn't (i.e. there is no established brand they are knocking off). Because for legitimate brands, I try to simply buy elsewhere. This is an example: https://www.amazon.com/MiiKARE-Universal-Rotating-Adjustable... You'll find lots of different manufacturers selling this on Amazon, but there…

> This is an example: https://www.amazon.com/MiiKARE-Universal-Rotating-Adjustable ... i wonder if it would be faster to 3d print that gadget than amazon prime it

3D printing is more a practice than it is a way to quickly create one off objects. I think certainly if your machine is dialed in and not malfunctioning in some way then it will be cheaper and faster to print than to buy this.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by danesparza »

kjellsbells wrote: post #5

Cuts two ways. Why should I pay $200 for a BigBrand dog bed if this knockoff site shows SHRDLU has the same thing for $40? We all know that BigBrand gets it from the same supplier. The real knockoff problem I see is that you buy what you think is BigBrand and get shipped Knockoff because someone is mingling inventory.

"BigBrand gets it from the same supplier"

I don't think commerce (especially at Amazon) works the way you think it does.

There is a very good chance that when you buy something at Amazon that says it's BigBrand ... it's just a knockoff. Or a fake that has infiltrated another part of Amazon's supply chain. There is big money in lying to customers through Amazon.

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by dixie_land »

paxys wrote: post #85
kjellsbells wrote: post #5

Cuts two ways. Why should I pay $200 for a BigBrand dog bed if this knockoff site shows SHRDLU has the same thing for $40? We all know that BigBrand gets it from the same supplier. The real knockoff problem I see is that you buy what you think is BigBrand and get shipped Knockoff because someone is mingling inventory.

“Knockoffs” can be of many different types: - Coming from the same factory line with the same quality control, just rebranded (Costco famously does this a lot) - Factory seconds, goods with very minor defects (sometimes not even in the product itself but in the box etc) - Manufacturers copying specs and running illicit production lines without the company’s authorization - Complete knockoffs, where the external desig…

It's more than likely you're getting the first since Chinese factories simply make more of what the big brand has ordered and sell the rest to drop shippers

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by 0x457 »

mrweasel wrote: post #83
TylerE wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not for physical mail.

Yeeeeey for living in a country where physical mail is prohibitively expensive. A standard letter, 2 - 5 business days, costs $3.50.

In US, USPS (government snail mail) literally has program that allows you to send^W spam marketing mail: https://www.usps.com/business/every-door-direct-mail.htm

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by alt227 »

kjellsbells wrote: post #5

Cuts two ways. Why should I pay $200 for a BigBrand dog bed if this knockoff site shows SHRDLU has the same thing for $40? We all know that BigBrand gets it from the same supplier. The real knockoff problem I see is that you buy what you think is BigBrand and get shipped Knockoff because someone is mingling inventory.

Why not go down to your local independent pet store, keep your money local and support your neighbours instead of giving it to directors and shareholders sitting on beaches in French Polynesia?

Re: Amazon without the knockoffs

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Post by wffurr »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #80

It's funny but their homepage exemplifies why one may actually want the "knockoff" brands. $39 instead of $224 for a pet bed. I know which one I'll buy. There are plenty of categories of items where the cheap knockoff is perfectly adequate.

Until it falls apart immediately or gives your pet a rash because of the poor quality materials that were substituted.
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