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Re: Resetting Xbox

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Aws is closer to monopoly than to utility

Most utilities are monopolies.

most utilities are natural monopolies. The cost to run wires/pipes to my house are a significant portion of the cost to serving me, so you wouldn't run wires to my house in hopes that I buy from you later.

Re: Resetting Xbox

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It was pretty rich seeing armchair video game industry analysts act like the new CEO was gonna usher in a new age for Microsoft's gaming division because she got to announce the updated logo and some games that would have obviously been in development long before she became CEO. Microsoft is never going to figure out gaming. It's more art than engineering and they can barely manage the engineering with all the interv…

> Microsoft is never going to figure out gaming. It's more art than engineering and they can barely manage the engineering with all the intervention from marketing and HR in their products. Gaming is like cuisine. Can it be art? Sure. But most people will never visit a Michelin starred restaurant in their whole lives. They go to McDonald's and their local equivalent. Mainstream games have been like McDonald's for a l…

i don't know, it's hard to generalize about audiences this big.

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Adobe

Can you share more information? I just looked at their Wikipedia entry and they spent 2018- basically doing acquisitions. What were they layoffs you were thinking of? It's hard to find historical data from 2016. And what's their new focus? It looks like they still have the same huge roster of apps.

Sure

https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/adobe-laying-off-600...

https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/adobe-to-cut-9-perce...

https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/adobes-transition-to...

They went through a heavy period of layoffs for a few years and now are killing it and it meets your criteria of about 10 years ago

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Pretty much the Switch experience. It sometimes downloads updates, but system updates are like 10 seconds, and games are updated in the background seamlessly. I don't play Fortnite, but it's also always updated in the library. Yes, if you don't keep it powered, it won't do that, but why wouldn't you if it just stays in the dock dark and quiet?

Nintendo finally implemented a modern update system that installs the new version in a new volume, reboots you into that volume, and deletes the old one once booted. It's why it's so fast. The work happened before you pressed update.

Maybe I am being naive but doesn't that seem like a basic and effective approach that others should have been able to implement too? Why doesn't Xbox or Microsoft do it? Optimistically download updates so that if the user wants, it is ready to go. If low on space, sacrifice those cached updates because they can be downloaded again.

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That messaging is for investors. To a dev's ears, it's a meaningless thing to say. It reminds me when Elon took over twitter and made a comment to the effect of "we need to rethink the entire tech stack from the ground up". Someone asked Elon what was wrong with the tech stack, and he called them a jackass.

It's quite insane that twitter went from 7500 -> 1500 employees and the site didn't implode. 80% of the people gone.

Eh, depends on what you mean by "implode."

Before the buyout (2021), twitter made $5.1 billion in ad revenue ($6.22 billion inflation-adjusted).

In 2025, it made about $2 billion.

So Twitter is now about 1/3rd of what it was (revenue wise) when purchased.

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We already saw this during the Kickstarter era where all the temporarily confused AAA studios sold themselves as having been held back by unreasonable publishers all this time only to produce the most bland and still unfinished games now that they were funded directly by fans.

Also, Chris Roberts should never be allowed to manage anything bigger than a shoebox. Sometimes, adults minding the financial shop focuses creativity.

You need two different types of management. You need the creative type who understands what customers want and ensures that is what you deliver. You need the financial type that understands profit margins.

If the company lacks either, or either gets too much power they are in trouble. Creative types will spend too much money on things that are nice but won't deliver enough value and so the company goes bankrupt. Financial types don't understand what customers want and optimize away all the expensive creative value the customers buy.

Note that the above applies to every type of company. Exactly what "creative" means is different for different industries, and some need it more than other (how much innovation do you need in soap?...). It always applies though so you need to ensure you get both types in leadership positions even though they don't like or understand each other.

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I needed a new DVD player and I pretty much splurged on an Xbox. But I haven't really used it for gaming.

I remember that was my calculus in the PS2 era. At one point near launch, they weren't much more expensive than a dedicated DVD player.

They were the cheapest DVD player you could buy for a while, and they were also the most available DVD player. That changed fairly quick, but at launch they were your best value. (though dedicated DVD players generally had better controls)

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> you can lose your job at any time for any reason. Depends on where you are.

I see no difference in this story between where studios are and the challenges facing their employees. It’s the basic fact that you are in an organization which may change direction. And you do not control that organization.

Yes, you can lose your job at any time. Just not for any reason.

Re: Resetting Xbox

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This is the frustrating thing reading these comments, where people seem to assume that any profit margin is good enough to sustain a business. People see a 3% return and think, "Well, they aren't losing money so there is no reason they can't just keep doing business as usual." What this idea is missing is that the investors in a company aren't choosing between "keep my money in this company" and "sit on the cash", th…

So basically: The stock market is cancer.

It's more like evolution through natural selection. If you can buy a treasury that returns 3.6%, you will NOT invest money in a business that has more risk, is only returning 3%, and has no believable growth story. Even worse, if you own shares in that company, you will sell them and shift the investment dollars to something with better returns or better chance for growth.

It's this competition that leads to prosperity, the alternative is central planning which leads to poverty.

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If you shut down the things that bring in $5 billion revenue, you no longer have $5 billion revenue, you have a gamble that some other industry can ramp up to that quickly. $5 billion has never been "quick money". (Inflation would have to get a whole lot worse for that to happen and that point the company has too many other problems.) That's "Opportunity Cost" among other bits of what used to be past corporate wisdom…

People are pointing to treasury bonds that would give a similar rate of return with no risk at all.

Yeah, and I'm pointing out the opportunity cost of that is just silly. It's not a practical exercise in any way. Suppose there was some way for Microsoft to stop exactly on a dime, magically collect all $5bn in gross revenue for a year and managed to put that all into US treasury bonds without tanking the interest rate/market value of those by entirely eliminating their products and goods that generate that $5bn revenue. Microsoft does what next? Wait 30 years for the bonds to mature and collect $5bn + ~4% compounded? 30 years that they could use $5bn/year gross revenue to all sorts of advantages, but they only have $5bn/year if they sell similar products and goods?

The time value of money suggests money invested today is more powerful than money returned tomorrow, even if you magically get the highest possible rate of return.

The opportunity costs say that if you jump ship on an entire industry don't expect to have the same revenue next year.

I love this weird short term thinking with long term mistakes that treasury bonds are the right benchmark for something like Microsoft's margins and net revenue. It's really fun to watch all the armchair capitalists come out to play that seem to follow quarterly reports like hawks but seem to act like they never took an actual economics course.

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