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The revenge of the philosophy majors

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Re: The revenge of the philosophy majors

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Post by taeric »

em500 wrote: post #19

This article seems high on vibes, low on metrics. > While a plain-vanilla philosophy degree remains as hard to monetize as ever, David Chalmers, a prominent philosopher of consciousness at N.Y.U., observes: “I think the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into. I think these issues with A.I. will be front and center for…

Wow, it is hard not to immediately think of that meme. There are indeed dozens of them!

Re: The revenge of the philosophy majors

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Post by giantg2 »

"Beyond nonprofits like Eleos, most of the hiring has been concentrated at DeepMind and Anthropic, each of which employs at least a half-dozen philosophers."

I would hardly call that the revenge of the philosophy majors.

Re: The revenge of the philosophy majors

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Post by fellowniusmonk »

em500 wrote: post #19

This article seems high on vibes, low on metrics. > While a plain-vanilla philosophy degree remains as hard to monetize as ever, David Chalmers, a prominent philosopher of consciousness at N.Y.U., observes: “I think the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into. I think these issues with A.I. will be front and center for…

The revenge of the _nearly a dozen_ philosophers.

Re: The revenge of the philosophy majors

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Post by deadbabe »

jipl104 wrote: post #18

"the demand for philosophers with A.I. training is, if anything, outstripping the supply right now. It’s an area I encourage students to go into"... There's about 20 philosophers employed by AI labs worldwide , vs 1000s of software engineers, product managers, designers, etc. There's probably more economists working in these labs than philosophers...

Starbucks employs orders of magnitude more philosophers than any AI labs.

Re: The revenge of the philosophy majors

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Post by seydor »

keiferski wrote: post #9

I studied analytic philosophy, which is basically an education in how to clarify your thoughts, say what you mean in precise terms, and make clear arguments. IMO there is no better preparation for any sort of writing-and-thinking job than studying analytic philosophy, although of course I am biased. Not sure I’d recommend doing only a philosophy degree, but I highly recommend pairing it with something else more emplo…

Dont you think that ANN research is upwards of philosophy in the ordo cognoscendi

Re: The revenge of the philosophy majors

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Post by cgyvbunji »

In summary, AI has tricked a bunch of philosophy majors into not only thinking it's more than linear algebra but changing their entire life trajectories because of their confusion. AI seems to be a very alluring tar pit for the non-technical. The sad part is how this negative externality of AI is being actively encouraged for political ends.

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Post by speak_plainly »

MSkill1 wrote: post #17

I would much rather hear that they were hiring theoretical logicians than philosophers.We could use more people exploring the limits of prepositional and propositional logic and set theory than we need philosophy. AI is never going to become conscious, at least not the kind we have right now.

You do realize that propositional logic, set theory, and mapping the limits of formal systems are philosophy, right? You're literally describing mathematical logic and philosophy of language.

Re: The revenge of the philosophy majors

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Post by keiferski »

seydor wrote: post #26
keiferski wrote: post #9

I studied analytic philosophy, which is basically an education in how to clarify your thoughts, say what you mean in precise terms, and make clear arguments. IMO there is no better preparation for any sort of writing-and-thinking job than studying analytic philosophy, although of course I am biased. Not sure I’d recommend doing only a philosophy degree, but I highly recommend pairing it with something else more emplo…

Dont you think that ANN research is upwards of philosophy in the ordo cognoscendi

Can you rephrase that in simpler terms? I don’t understand what you’re asking.

Re: The revenge of the philosophy majors

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Post by consensus1 »

cgyvbunji wrote: post #27

In summary, AI has tricked a bunch of philosophy majors into not only thinking it's more than linear algebra but changing their entire life trajectories because of their confusion. AI seems to be a very alluring tar pit for the non-technical. The sad part is how this negative externality of AI is being actively encouraged for political ends.

The strange part is that they seemed to have tricked AI companies too.
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