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A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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You just pull the loose string end to relieve the knot? The loop just pulls out.

I think he means that if you ever accidentally tie the knot wrong, then it can end up difficult to untie.

I don't think I tied it wrong. I think it eventually just tightened up with usage and got really hard to work with.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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I lived several decades knowing only the standard set of knots (square, granny) that every six-year-old knows. Recently, due to Scouts, learned more and I can't believe how often I use them. "Dryer's busted! My DIY laundry line sags! What to do?!" "If only I could make a loop that won't move in the middle of this rope!" ... and... this knot is new to me. I'm stoked to add it to the brainbox. Way to go, OP!

Ever since I was a scout in the 90s I've been considering how to get in contact with them about discouraging use of the square knot. The way that loading it crosswise causes it to shift into a double half hitch, turning from a "hold fast" knot to a slipknot... That's funky behavior and should disqualify it from being among the first few knots people learn. If you're using it for its advertised purpose, it's downright…

The reef knot (square knot in Scouts lingo) is a good binding knot. It's a terrible bend. Scouts teach it as a bend, for some idiotic reason.

Reefing a sail or tying a parcel, a reef knot the role will fulfill. But joining two ends one should only use bends, And a reef knot's a sure way to kill.

⸻Stuart Grainger, ex-Master Mariner, 1985. Referenced from "The Complete Book of Knots" by Geoffrey Budworth.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#83
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post #57

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You could also say life is too short to waste time retying inferior drawstrings. If learning the knot takes 5 minutes, it seems like it could easily save you time overall.

I was looking for the comic and found this: https://xkcd.com/1205/ (I swear there was a better one)

This one perhaps? https://xkcd.com/1319/

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#84

Life is too short to make simple things more complicated.

I got through an entire day yesterday in massively oversized gym shorts, by simply forming a standard loop, and wrapping it _twice_. That extra friction (the second wrap) has worked for years on shoes, boots, and, very large shorts

I will not be learning a fancy knot because I have no need

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#85

I did this for a while after seeing that video, but after some of my shorts ended up tightening into a knot that I couldn't get loose easily, I gave up on it. I instead just use the "Ian Knot" that I use to tie my shoes. It's very quick, I already use it all the time anyhow, and it rarely goes wrong. (Sometimes, I think I end up with an end through a loop accidentally, and have to fix it.) Learning this extra knot di…

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Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he means that if you ever accidentally tie the knot wrong, then it can end up difficult to untie.

I don't think I tied it wrong. I think it eventually just tightened up with usage and got really hard to work with.

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Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#88

This knot is not for me. I need my drawstrings to be permanently connected together, or else when I wash those shorts they frequently get pulled into the pants where I can't reach them, and it's a pain to fish them out again. And I can't remember to tie them together before each wash.

In recent years I've needed to use a Wash & Fold service, and I've gone through at least 8 of them with acrimonious disputes and really awful service.

The last one was getting all my clothes clean, but they always folded them in the most haphazard ridiculous way; some garments were deliberately turned inside-out, etc. (It was kind of a racist thing, by the workers who were not of the friendly owner family at the front counter. Happens all the time to me.)

Another annoying thing that they did was that anytime a garment had a drawstring, it would end up extracted or completely pulled into the waistband. The front-counter owner lady even pointed this out, rather gleefully, and "apologized" and handed me the disassembled pair of shorts.

In the meantime, I found that a lacquered chopstick was very useful to route the drawstring back through the waistband, along with a pair of tweezers or needlenose pliers, to fish out the end from deep inside there.

Since then, I've switched to a service that is treating me with respect, and the lady is amazingly good at sorting and folding! Yay!

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#89

This knot is not for me. I need my drawstrings to be permanently connected together, or else when I wash those shorts they frequently get pulled into the pants where I can't reach them, and it's a pain to fish them out again. And I can't remember to tie them together before each wash.

I once made a contraption out of the top thread-part of a plastic soda bottle and the lid. Cut a slot down the threads, put your drawstring ends through the bottle end and slot, then tighten the cap to hold everything in place. plastic. survives the wash. Then my Dad suggested sewing the drawstring to the shorts at the midpoint with a few stitches. Much better, you don't have to make and remember to use any contraption.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#90

Life is too short to make simple things more complicated.

It somehow reminded me of this: (How to open a door - Finnish instructional video from 1979) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wof0xPUmW38

That tutorial has opened up many doors for me
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