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Yes, AI Will Take Your Job

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Re: Yes, AI Will Take Your Job

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Post by throwawayffffas »

twosdai wrote: post #2

I think this article takes some assumptions for granted: 1. AI will get better, and at a price point that makes sense for businesses to operate on. 2. "Managers" (non-technical users) will be as good at using AI as "frontend engineers" (technical users) or make something of comparable quality. 3. All or most technical problems can be solved by AI. I think the title and take for this type of doom thinking is not reall…

In my view the article makes the following points.

  1. AI does not need to get better for the MBA to use it instead of your labor.
  2. They don't need to be good at using AI because they don't care about quality.
  3. Most technical problems are unsolved right now and AI won't change that.
If you observer the processes PMs follow they can just drop in an AI agent instead of a dev. Just tell it to do stuff and look at the result is their modus operandi as it is right now. They don't care about the engineering quality because they are not the ones that have to maintain it. And they won't get fired if it keels over.

Re: Yes, AI Will Take Your Job

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Post by bbg2401 »

> They’ll reach for the tools they always do: brutal suppression of the poor, leveraging of propaganda, and the dangling of carrots to a select few class traitors needed to enforce and maintain the system (middle managers, scabs, and cops).

Even if America was on a path towards communism, you'd be an ignorant fool to suggest the aforementioned ills would cease to exist given they are recurrent throughout communist systems.

Re: Yes, AI Will Take Your Job

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Post by Jgoauh »

i'm so tired of those HN blog articles where the title is always someone over confidently claiming something they have no expertise over (sorry, being a software engineer and founder doesn't make you a job market expert nor a historian, and doesn't make your opinion relevant). I wish there were options on HN to filter out "my opinion is a fact and you're all wrong" articles

Re: Yes, AI Will Take Your Job

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Post by otikik »

So, this is what this person doesn't get about Europe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp84sRpM1Js

In case it isn't clear: riots in Paris are (relatively) common. Common enough so that regular life, or in this case, a croissant review, doesn't stop. People travelling to the train station might encounter a couple rubbish bins on fire on their way there, and then find that their train was cancelled because of riots.

That's what Europe has that the US is lacking, and can't quite conceive.

> Yes, AI will take your job, except for a small subset of people: plumbers, surgeons and the like. Oh, and politicians, executives, and board members.

Not if every time they get out of their gated community or their 5-star hotel they face burning trash and get thrown rotten eggs to their faces.

You got to up your game, America.

Re: Yes, AI Will Take Your Job

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Post by komali2 »

Jgoauh wrote: post #15

i'm so tired of those HN blog articles where the title is always someone over confidently claiming something they have no expertise over (sorry, being a software engineer and founder doesn't make you a job market expert nor a historian, and doesn't make your opinion relevant). I wish there were options on HN to filter out "my opinion is a fact and you're all wrong" articles

I wrote it, and I invite you to tell me why I'm wrong - genuinely. I'm here for the conversation. I don't know how else to write on something other than authoritatively. If I'm wrong on the internet, people will definitely tell me!

In person, I'll hedge of course, it's a natural part of conversing and inviting people to share.

Arguing whether someone is permitted to speak on a subject sounds like it would take as much effort as simply discussing the subject itself.

Re: Yes, AI Will Take Your Job

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Post by flossly »

Jgoauh wrote: post #15

i'm so tired of those HN blog articles where the title is always someone over confidently claiming something they have no expertise over (sorry, being a software engineer and founder doesn't make you a job market expert nor a historian, and doesn't make your opinion relevant). I wish there were options on HN to filter out "my opinion is a fact and you're all wrong" articles

I really liked the article. Sure maybe the title of the original article is a little clickbaity; but are article titles not supposed to be "drawing your attention"?

The author is doing really cool things, like a worker-coop for software engineering:

https://508.dev/pricing

Also i think the article contained some interesting points. Like the "class consciousness" of the owner-class and how this affects decisions on AI. But, to me, there were more.

Anyway, to each their own. I liked it.

Re: Yes, AI Will Take Your Job

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Post by flossly »

sassbadger wrote: post #9
sebastianconcpt wrote: post #7

The article is a piece of revolutionary rant. > Capitalism is unnatural, and selects for unnatural things. Wrong. Even plants have a conspicuous signaling economy to get their way to selection.

Economy/Markets != Capitalism

There's a really insightful book on this topic (by pretty much the name you suggested):

https://www.minorcompositions.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/1...

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