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Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Hard to tell if that's the same as the Ian Knot: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

Thanks for sharing. That's an awesome site! I think its the same Knot. I really like Ian's Secure Knot too: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

I've become a huge fan of the secure knot. Holds easily as well as any double knot I have ever seen, with the massive advantage of easy release.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Super cool! Here is how to tie a bow in under 1 second in case anyone wants something that looks a bit cleaner but is less functional: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/Q5qZpQe_4EA

Hard to tell if that's the same as the Ian Knot: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I've learned the Ian Knot almost 10 years ago and it still gives me a good smile when I use it every day. Feels like a proper life-hack.

I also cannot help myself but look down at people that don't use it, shoelace normies.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

#34
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Gosh I need to learn more about knots. I've been thinking about this recently: if I wanted to maximise utility and could only learn 5 knots, what would they be. Or alternatively, what are the "better" alternatives to the classics everyone knows.

There is a reason scouts require you to tie so many knots. Not that any scout remembers their knots longer than needed pass that requirement, but it is still important and once in a while they do need them.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Gosh I need to learn more about knots. I've been thinking about this recently: if I wanted to maximise utility and could only learn 5 knots, what would they be. Or alternatively, what are the "better" alternatives to the classics everyone knows.

Bowline, truckee’s hitch (the better alternative to a truckers hitch), prussick come to mind

Strongly agreed, and thank you - TIL about the truckee hitch, I've always been using trucker's hitches and now I'm going to go try to reprogram myself.

I'd add a butterfly loop to this list for those times you need to add a tie-in point to the middle of a rope for whatever reason.

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Gosh I need to learn more about knots. I've been thinking about this recently: if I wanted to maximise utility and could only learn 5 knots, what would they be. Or alternatively, what are the "better" alternatives to the classics everyone knows.

I've spent waaay to much time thinking about this over the past few years and have really gotten into knots.

Personally I'd say you need to classify the type of knots you want to learn and pick one knot from each. The classics in my opinion are

1. End loop

2. Mid loop

3. Hitch (opposite of an end loop)

4. adjustable loop

5. Bend (rope to rope)

My suggestions in order are

# End Loop

1a. Bowline (snap variant) - This is a knot that's super easy to tie, remember, and untie. There are a bunch of variants to expand it's usefulness (double, water, slip, yosemite, etc)

1b. Zeppelin Loop - this is my personal favorite, it's a little tricky to tie but I've never seen it slip and it unties easily after it's all done.

# Mid Loop

2a. Alpine Butterfly - learn the butterfly method and this is an easy to tie knot that can be easily sized. It also doesn't bind so it unties easily and can be loaded in any direction (on of the only midline knots this is true for)

2b. Bowline on a Bight - Super satisfying knot to tie, a little wonky to learn just because of the structure but easy to tie once you get it.

# Hitch

3a. Tensionless Hitch - (this is probably the most overlooked 'knot' just look at a diagram you can learn it and never forget it after seeing the diagram once. It's the strongest knot there is if you have the rope for it. (I wouldn't really count this at one of your 5 but it's good to keep in mind)

3b. Buntline Hitch - dead simple and you can usually untie it after a heavy load 3c. Siberian Hitch - This is effectively a slipped noose but I use it all the time, it's my personal go to.

3c. Poachers knot - If you have a carabiner or know you're never going to need to untie this knot it's hard to beat

# Adjustable Loop / Friction Hitch

4a. Adjustable Grip Hitch - Easy to learn and holds better than the Midshipman's

4b. Midshipman - it's a little more complicated but this was Ashley's favorite because it can be tied under tension

# Bend

(Bends and fixed loops usually have the same structure so you might not need this one)

5a. Zeppelin Bend - seriously just learn this one, sixty nine method is the easiest for me. Knot is easy to tie, doesn't slip, and is easy to untie.

5b. Sheet Bend - this knot... is fine but you already know it if you learned the bowline above as it's the same structure

Bonus Section

1. Trucker/Truckee - probably one of the most useful knots around, learn the method that uses a slip knot for the mid loop and it'll make even easier

2. Canadian Jam Knot - Useful for bundling things, it's a knot I find myself using a lot

3. Voodoo Hitch - You can use it in place of a ratchet strap if you have a couple of carabiners

4. Icicle Hitch - Ever wanted to tie a rope to a butter metal pole and keep it from slipping? This is the knot, it cinches and grips things with so much friction you can tie a rope to about anything vaguely cylindrical

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Gosh I need to learn more about knots. I've been thinking about this recently: if I wanted to maximise utility and could only learn 5 knots, what would they be. Or alternatively, what are the "better" alternatives to the classics everyone knows.

The Farrimond Hitch is my favorite knot. Useful to tie a line to another line and have it adjustable, but strong under load and a single pull to undo it. Easy to remember, it's like a prusik knot.

https://www.animatedknots.com/farrimond-friction-hitch-knot

(overhand and double 8 are probably used more often by me, but not that versatile)

Re: A better way to tie gym shorts (or any drawstring) [video]

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Gosh I need to learn more about knots. I've been thinking about this recently: if I wanted to maximise utility and could only learn 5 knots, what would they be. Or alternatively, what are the "better" alternatives to the classics everyone knows.

Depends what you're doing. My favourite knot is the bowline. Non-slip loop, very strong, easy to tie, easy to undo. Can be used for tying two ropes together, ropes to things. Other useful ones (especially for sailing) * Clove hitch * Reef knot * Rolling hitch * Sheet bend

Tying a bowline is one of my fidgets. Also famously has a part in Jaws (1975), though not mentioned by name. ("Hey! I got it!")
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