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Mark Zuckerberg's biggest legal nightmare yet could cost Meta $1.4T

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg's biggest legal nightmare yet could cost Meta $1.4T

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TBH, I think this should be prosecuted as a felony. In the past, fines have not proven to motivate Meta to change.

Seems like we all forgot about the election scandal with Meta. They are a parasite to society and what used to be a way to connect with college peers has become a stain to adolescent development.

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Meta is a symptom; the whole business is rotten. We've all heard the vocabulary: engagement maximization, a/b testing, emotional targeting, ad auctions, user surveillance, sentiment analysis. Children are not emotionally or intellectually prepared to repel this hostile takeover of their minds. Civilization needs to rein in all these terrible things corporations do to humans.

Assuming we eek thru a whirlwind of catastrophic dangers, one day we will look at this period of time with the same reaction as if we had been sprinkling lead on our cereal.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's biggest legal nightmare yet could cost Meta $1.4T

#44

I see this case pretty simply. The states want to prove that Meta knew what it was doing to kids and did it anyways to raise engagement. Meanwhile it looks like Meta is trying to sidestep that argument entirely by stating that social media addiction is not a formally recognized diagnosis, essentially saying that while it was slimey, it was not illegal. Morally I side more with the states but legally you can't ignore…

I think you could ignore their legal argument in the civilized world but in the USA perhaps not. The very concept of a "formally recognized diagnosis" is American health insurance industry gaslighting (also not a formal diagnosis fwiw). It means nothing in other countries.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's biggest legal nightmare yet could cost Meta $1.4T

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post #27

Meta is a symptom; the whole business is rotten. We've all heard the vocabulary: engagement maximization, a/b testing, emotional targeting, ad auctions, user surveillance, sentiment analysis. Children are not emotionally or intellectually prepared to repel this hostile takeover of their minds. Civilization needs to rein in all these terrible things corporations do to humans.

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg's biggest legal nightmare yet could cost Meta $1.4T

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post #27

Meta is a symptom; the whole business is rotten. We've all heard the vocabulary: engagement maximization, a/b testing, emotional targeting, ad auctions, user surveillance, sentiment analysis. Children are not emotionally or intellectually prepared to repel this hostile takeover of their minds. Civilization needs to rein in all these terrible things corporations do to humans.

In all fairness social media is in the same kind of business model as porn and gambling. None of that is forced on anybody. If you don't want those in your life then just don't consume them. If you don't want them in your household use a DNS blocker. How much should we really parent the rest of society?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's biggest legal nightmare yet could cost Meta $1.4T

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post #27

Meta is a symptom; the whole business is rotten. We've all heard the vocabulary: engagement maximization, a/b testing, emotional targeting, ad auctions, user surveillance, sentiment analysis. Children are not emotionally or intellectually prepared to repel this hostile takeover of their minds. Civilization needs to rein in all these terrible things corporations do to humans.

> Children are not emotionally or intellectually prepared to repel this hostile takeover of their minds. Neither are most adults. The current situation in the world is plenty of evidence for that.

"You are not immune to propaganda" is a phrase that doesn't hit hard enough.

It applies to you dear reader, yes you, not u/baggachipz.. YOU.

I am also not immune, I believe myself to be, constantly. My worldview is truth and I am "open to other ideas"- yet I have very obviously anchored myself to things the first time I hear of them, despite actively making steps to try to see all angles and explain away facts with alternative theories. (which is exhausting) I definitely believe what someone wants me to believe.

It's plain, it's obvious, and yet it continually happens. It's only with a decade of distance that I even realise what had happened.

And people call me "balanced" and "intelligent", theoretically I have more tools to deal with this than the majority of the population.

Yet... I am not immune to propaganda.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's biggest legal nightmare yet could cost Meta $1.4T

#49
post #27

Meta is a symptom; the whole business is rotten. We've all heard the vocabulary: engagement maximization, a/b testing, emotional targeting, ad auctions, user surveillance, sentiment analysis. Children are not emotionally or intellectually prepared to repel this hostile takeover of their minds. Civilization needs to rein in all these terrible things corporations do to humans.

Large corporations behave very much like a typical dictatorship anywhere in the world. And I mean they are playing the exact same playbook as much as they can. Actually sometimes I don't know which one borrowed from the other. The latter is definitionally the ultimate monopoly, which looks like the annual target for those corporations.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg's biggest legal nightmare yet could cost Meta $1.4T

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post #35
post #27

Meta is a symptom; the whole business is rotten. We've all heard the vocabulary: engagement maximization, a/b testing, emotional targeting, ad auctions, user surveillance, sentiment analysis. Children are not emotionally or intellectually prepared to repel this hostile takeover of their minds. Civilization needs to rein in all these terrible things corporations do to humans.

What HUMANS do to humans. Any one of the people in power could have stopped this, and none of them did.

Sort of - it's collective wrongdoing. Individuals on the street do not do this to each other. Individuals in groups justify their tiny contribution as insignificant towards the aggregate societal harm the organism does.

Leaders like Zuck, on the other hand, have no excuse.

And marketers, there's still time to save your souls and find honest work.

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