Dua Lipa opens, in Portugal, a library for books that are banned and censored (elsewhere).
That makes more sense. How could a library or a bookshop in a location legally offer books that are banned in that location?
Dua Lipa opens library for banned and censored books in Portugal
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#62I find this video that looks at Dua Lipa and her love of books great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN1rULxGHCA
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#63> In some cases, the author has paid for their words with their life.” Are there examples of these? The few examples mentioned in the article are easy to buy, at least in the US. Is there a full manifest somewhere?
Hundreds in Gaza alone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_journalists_in_the_...
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#64They are not banned in portugal. Appreciate the gesture but it s very inconsequential.
They are banned somewhere and the library is open in Portugal. If they were banned in Portugal it would run afoul of the legal system, and probably be closed down, obviously. But if the criteria of being in the library - that the book be banned somewhere in the world; that's a reason to visit the library in of itself. Though I think there's going to be a lot of garbage, one need only remember that Life of Brian (the…
> one need only remember that Life of Brian (the Monty Python movie) is banned in the Vatican.
I can find no confirmation of this, or of any ban since 1966 (and that is assuming that the index of forbidden books had legal force in the Vatican).
> But if the criteria of being in the library - that the book be banned somewhere in the world; that's a reason to visit the library in of itself.
Is it worth a visit to a physical location? A lot of those books are ones I could see on a list and order online. Its not really that interesting if a book as been banned somewhere very authoritarian, nor am I that interested if schools in one area somewhere were not allowed to have a book in their libraries. On the other hand reading down this list is very illuminating, and often astonishing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_banned_by_govern... I am still scrolling down it, but Austria, Australia and China are all fascinating.
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In this context it doesn’t literally mean banned, it means the book wasn’t allowed somewhere. and what is a good word to use when something isn't allowed somewhere? perhaps... "banned"? i dont understand why people think something needs be unavailable globally to be considered "banned". there's a million examples of the word "banned" being used when X isn't allowed in Y context . people only get touchy about it whe…
In your opinion is Hustler magazine a banned book becuase its not allowed in schools?
if i said "hustler is banned from my school", and someone came along and said "it's not banned, it's just not allowed", i would laugh.
the word "banned", specifically and only in the context of books, is one of the fucking strangest quirks of HN.
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#66Dua Lipa opens, in Portugal, a library for books that are banned and censored (elsewhere).
That makes more sense. How could a library or a bookshop in a location legally offer books that are banned in that location?
THAT would be awesome bravery and freedom: "Come and take it" has been powerful before.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
The confusion is because some books were literally banned somewhere, while others were just deemed not to be age-appropriate for young children in a school environment. We don’t call R-rated movies “banned” because we’ve decided not to show it at schools to kids. That’s why it’s confusing when we switch to books and the word “banned” means somebody, somewhere, decided it wasn’t appropriate for kids in their school or…
the confusion is fake. books are the only time people get fussy about the word. (despite the same conversation occurring every month or two here) dang bans someone from HN? no confusion. alcohol banned in public? no confusion. weapons banned from schools? no confusion. books? oh my god, they aren't banned they just aren't allowed
> dang bans someone from HN? no confusion. alcohol banned in public? no confusion. weapons banned from schools? no confusion.
Notice how all of those bans include a specific context? From HN, in schools, in public.
No confusion.
Notice how the only context in the headline is “in Portugal” but the books are not banned in Portugal?
Confusion.
It’s really not hard.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are banned somewhere and the library is open in Portugal. If they were banned in Portugal it would run afoul of the legal system, and probably be closed down, obviously. But if the criteria of being in the library - that the book be banned somewhere in the world; that's a reason to visit the library in of itself. Though I think there's going to be a lot of garbage, one need only remember that Life of Brian (the…
> one need only remember that Life of Brian (the Monty Python movie) is banned in the Vatican. I can find no confirmation of this, or of any ban since 1966 (and that is assuming that the index of forbidden books had legal force in the Vatican). > But if the criteria of being in the library - that the book be banned somewhere in the world; that's a reason to visit the library in of itself. Is it worth a visit to a phy…
Ah, sorry, I was confused, it was Italy.
https://www.thewoodword.org/entertainment/2023/04/03/reeling...
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
"libraries and educators to forgo specific books" is neither "banning" nor "censoring" In the name of literacy, we need to use words properly.
It is censorship if those books are not included for a specific reason. “We aren’t including this book in the library because we don’t have space for every book.” “We aren’t including this book because we don’t think it’s appropriate for kids to learn about trans people.” <—- censorship
Playboy was never in school libraries either, basically because children aren't adults.
Isn't this basic curation and child protection, not censorship?
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#70I hope that her star power encourages young people to read literally anything. The ability for her fans to sit with a singular text, without ad breaks, sponcon, brand deals, and everything else on social media seems like a societal win.