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Re: Resetting Xbox

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Post by rawbot »

SllX wrote: post #365
manytimesaway wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point wasn't about Nintendo ruining things in-house rather than them following the exact same trends than Sony & Microsoft, only a few years late. MP4 is what OP was talking about, an "interactive Hollywood" experience that betrays previous Metroids, adds discutable open-world design cues, and locks features behind $30 figures.

Metroid is a secondary or tertiary IP, and the Metroid Prime subseries has always had more smoke online than its sale figures would ever suggest, with only the original on Gamecube selling north of 2 million, and it was a pack-in title.

Metroid Prime wasn't a pack-in title. In fact, the bundles that did offer it bundled were short-lived.

Re: Resetting Xbox

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Post by krige »

grugdev42 wrote: post #738

Too little too late. Xbox is dying and PS won. Try listening to your customers next time. We don't want to be ripped off with paying for assets we don't own. We don't want another monthly subscription. We want the old games, remastered, with fully functioning multiplayer.

> Too little too late. Xbox is dying and PS won.

Seems like currently PS is too determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Re: Resetting Xbox

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Post by Gigachad »

hbn wrote: post #67
maples37 wrote: post #66

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Microsoft also didn't do themselves any favor with that naming scheme. In the current generation (I think?), you have: - Xbox X - Xbox S - Xbox Series X - Xbox Series S Compared to: - PlayStation 5 - PlayStation 5 Pro or: - Nintendo Switch - Nintendo Switch OLED - Nintendo Switch Lite Anyone who's literate in English (and knows that OLED means "nicer screen") can immediately rank the PlayStations and Switches into "g…

Slight correction. Last generation was the Xbox One (already a confusing name because some people thought that was referring to the original first Xbox) A few years into the generation they updated the Xbox One, putting it into a smaller form factor called the Xbox One S, and at the same time released a spec bump model called the Xbox One X. I don't believe any of these are still available for purchase. The new gener…

You could hardly come up with a worse naming scheme if you tried.

Re: Resetting Xbox

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Post by dannyw »

mtsr wrote: post #781
ChrisRR wrote: post #711

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What's not to understand that when you're having to spend 4.85B in order to get 5B in revenue makes your business quite risky. You want to be operating on larger margins than that

Pretty normal margin in some kinds of businesses, like supermarkets. Then again, supermarkets aren’t likely to see all their customers leave at the drop of a hat.

The scale is also very different. Costco earned $70.53 billion in a recent quarter (not 5B here). Their operating margin is 3.93%, which is also healthier.

Re: Resetting Xbox

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Post by schnitzelstoat »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #131
zitterbewegung wrote: post #82

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Xbox around 2021 had around a 12% profit margin and the gaming industry as a whole was around 17-22% . In 2023 the target for the division was put to 30% . We see this new restructuring because the target was put this high. Microsoft really wanted Game Pass to be a steam competitor which is pretty much what everyone in the industry tries to do and fails. The push for Game Pass prices to be higher was to get the 30% m…

Being a Steam competitor involves making a store that's actually good. All the other major stores/platforms don't really seem to give a shit, to be frank. Steam has like 20x their feature set, and the gap appears to be still growing. If anything, it should be easier to make cool new features when you own the hardware side of the platform experience too, but no, it's Steam that has stuff like remote play together, not…

Yeah, there's lots of stuff in Steam that I never use and don't even understand. Like the Steam Points and the Trading Cards and Steam Level and so on.

But the purchasing experience is top notch and they even have a generous refund policy. It's just lightyears ahead of the competition.

Re: Resetting Xbox

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Post by dannyw »

slg wrote: post #630
7thpower wrote: post #599

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The awareness of a poor return on investment is a good thing for society. We want to do more with fewer resources. Making terrible decisions, such as investing in distractions for your company and consumers, and then letting your workforce pay the tab.. is the thing that is not great for society.

>We want to do more with fewer resources. Who is the "we" here? Because the profit margin not being high enough is certainly not a problem for consumers. The only people who should care about that are the company's shareholders and "shareholders" certainly isn't synonymous with "society".

I think a lot of people in the gaming community would agree that Microsoft has ruined, or hindered (instead of helping) many studios they bought.

Re: Resetting Xbox

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Post by rawbot »

cyberrock wrote: post #454
manytimesaway wrote: post #19

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Things are not that black and white. Nintendo also shipped Metroid Prime 4, with massive delays and unsatisfied customers, following the same "interactive Hollywood" philosophy which disappointed Metroid fans. Same thing goes for Star Fox, a remake of a remake of a remake, with poor visual and dialogue choices. And meanwhile, the same silent push for digital-only, forced upgrades and the like...

I can understand complaints about Metroid but Star Fox fans were probably expecting jack squat from the start of the year. Putting it in the last movie is a pretty strong indicator for more content. A lot of Nintendo's remakes end up being training exercises for the real deal, such as Metroid 2 remake to Dread. Meanwhile, some of the laid off devs here might have never seen a properly produced title with zero crunch…

Metroid 2 Remake, for all its warts (many), is at least a full-on reimagined remake. Star Fox 64's latest remake, is mostly a carbon-copy of the original, which already had an "HD" remake on the 3DS.

Re: Resetting Xbox

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Post by KaseKun »

rockyj wrote: post #24

This is a total mess IMHO. - The make around 5 billion in revenue per quarter - The problem according to them is profit margin - around 150-160 million So first of all, they are big! Secondly they are not at a loss. They just have a "thin, non-growing margin". So to fix all this they are trimming down, so they can "return to growth" (which I think is ridiculous). Some points - - They are huge business even now - 5 bi…

You have to leave your local maximum to find the global maximum.

Re: Resetting Xbox

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Post by jrmg »

Schnitz wrote: post #609
jrmg wrote: post #317

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I never understood the esteem Phil Spencer was held in, seemingly both by fans and industry insiders. I never understood Phil’s strategy. Buy a plethora of studios. Pay an order of magnitude over the odds for the big ones - just to be sure you get them! ‘Rescue’ smaller ones of questionable financial value - as part of Xbox they’d somehow be successful enough to justify the price paid. Heavily manage the studio heads…

> I never understood the esteem Phil Spencer was held in He headed things during the Xbox 360 era, which was a golden era of gaming, one of the best console generations and also peak Xbox. Just look at this video to get an idea of how high the density of great games was at that time: https://youtu.be/w5u8jyPIrIY?is=NsTee0620BmmVbcB

I’ll admit to being ‘out of gaming’ for that era (I’m a pandemic gaming-returner), but I wasn’t aware of that. Was his reach bigger than his official title?

Wikipedia doesn’t show him in an ‘overall leader’ role until 2014, a year into the relatively disastrous Xbox One era.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Spencer_(business_executi...

Re: Resetting Xbox

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Post by Gigachad »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #677
LunaSea wrote: post #667

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Rhythm Heaven is a 18 year old and Tomodachi life is a 13 year old license.

Yes. And an environment like Microsoft wouldn't think a dormant, niche franchise like that would be able to achieve an overwhelming success after 2 generation. But sure, if you want the last new IP, Nintendo has played it safe with Arms and focused more on bolstering dormant IP's on the switch. With Animal Crossing and Zelda in particular finding new winds. Splatoon was their last huge success as a new IP in 2015. La…

Microsoft is sitting on a bunch of these they will probably never use. Wish we would get another Viva Piñata game.
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