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Re: Linux on the Atari Jaguar

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> Biggest contenders are the original Macintosh (And Apple Lisa), the Commodore Amiga series of computers (With varying generations of the 68000), the Sega Genesis/Megadrive, the Neo-Geo AES, Plexus workstations... and the Jaguar.

Strange that they mention almost all well-known 68k machines, but forget the (extremely relevant in this case) Atari ST...

Re: Linux on the Atari Jaguar

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

About a minute and a half. It varies by 2~ seconds at most. Could possibly be related to how Linux does the calibrate_delay() stuff? (And well, I'm also not too sure on how deterministic it's supposed to be in terms of time).

Honestly not that far off from my 486 DX2/66 back in the day

We're talking about the equivalent of booting with init=/bin/sh, I don't remember kernel init on x86 ever being that slow

Re: Linux on the Atari Jaguar

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post #31

> Biggest contenders are the original Macintosh (And Apple Lisa), the Commodore Amiga series of computers (With varying generations of the 68000), the Sega Genesis/Megadrive, the Neo-Geo AES, Plexus workstations... and the Jaguar. Strange that they mention almost all well-known 68k machines, but forget the (extremely relevant in this case) Atari ST...

I basically wrote them down as they came to my mind, but I agree. I'm still waiting to find a decently priced Falcon 030...

Re: Linux on the Atari Jaguar

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post #22

Wow, i recognized the 68000 before i even saw the caption. That little chip sure powered a lot of different things back then.

Yeah, I also have a lot of nostalgia for the good ol' 68000.

But "little" is not quite the correct word to describe it, especially not when using DIP packaging as shown in the image in the article. Actually, the 68000 was right at the limits of what could be feasibly packaged as DIP. Later 68000 machines like the Amiga 600 used the PLCC version to save space and costs (https://bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/media/download_phot...). Actually, the Jaguar also had the PLCC version: https://www.the-liberator.net/site-files/retro-games/hardwar... .

Re: Linux on the Atari Jaguar

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post #31

> Biggest contenders are the original Macintosh (And Apple Lisa), the Commodore Amiga series of computers (With varying generations of the 68000), the Sega Genesis/Megadrive, the Neo-Geo AES, Plexus workstations... and the Jaguar. Strange that they mention almost all well-known 68k machines, but forget the (extremely relevant in this case) Atari ST...

The Sega Saturn might also qualify, as its sound subsystem has a 68000 with 512 KiB of RAM. Running Linux on it might be trickier though.

Re: Linux on the Atari Jaguar

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post #31

> Biggest contenders are the original Macintosh (And Apple Lisa), the Commodore Amiga series of computers (With varying generations of the 68000), the Sega Genesis/Megadrive, the Neo-Geo AES, Plexus workstations... and the Jaguar. Strange that they mention almost all well-known 68k machines, but forget the (extremely relevant in this case) Atari ST...

I basically wrote them down as they came to my mind, but I agree. I'm still waiting to find a decently priced Falcon 030...

> Falcon 030

Get a TT and make it your daily driver with Atari Unix.

About the list, the 68000 and its descendants ended up in most of the Unix/technical workstation and small mini computer market before everyone moved to RISC (Sun to SPARC, HP to PA, and so on).

Re: Linux on the Atari Jaguar

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Surely I must have seen someone do this already on Slashdot like 25 years ago. Cheers for using a recent kernel though, that's neat.

Hi! Thanks! Though' I must say that it also helped lots that there's still m68k (Heck, even base 68000) arch code on upstream Linux...!

“Modern Linux on the Atari Jaguar” is not a headline I expected. Thank you for making it real.

Can it do 80 columns though?

Re: Linux on the Atari Jaguar

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post #27

> The Motorola 68000 > Overall, it got lots of traction commercially; it .... Before ARM the m68k was possibly the most deployed processor architecture in history. In the late 1990s it was in printers, cars, personal digital assistants, erc, as well as all the home computers, arcades and unix workstations it found it's way into in the 1980s and early 1990s. It's sucessor, the Coldfire, could have taken ARMs place...…

> Before ARM the m68k was possibly the most deployed processor architecture in history My money would be on something smaller such as the 8051 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_MCS-51 ) Also, between m68k and ARM there was PowerPC. It got used a lot in embedded systems. Because “the newer the car, the more microprocessors it has”, chances are it got used more than m68k. FWIW, Google’s AI gives me: - for the m68k:…

> My money would be on something smaller such as the 8051 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_MCS-51)

Also MIPS. It was VERY popular in embedded. Also Sony’s PS1 and PS2.

Re: Linux on the Atari Jaguar

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi! Thanks! Though' I must say that it also helped lots that there's still m68k (Heck, even base 68000) arch code on upstream Linux...!

“Modern Linux on the Atari Jaguar” is not a headline I expected. Thank you for making it real. Can it do 80 columns though?

Anytime!

As for 80 columns... I'd probably need to choose a different (Narrower) font. With a bit smaller font I reckon it should be feasible to have it (Since current one has 8x8 glyphs).

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