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Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by mikae1 »

Cider9986 wrote: post #80
ponkipo wrote: post #75

I've read both Organic Maps thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48794446 (as it's my favorite map app I use for years around the world, and I'm an active OSM contributor as well) which quickly became overrun with CoMaps followers trash-talking about OM, now this thread appears. What I find interesting to see, and I think it's not just me who can see this - that basically every mention of CoMaps and why it is…

> What I find interesting to see, and I think it's not just me who can see this - that basically every mention of CoMaps and why it is good and Organic is bad is it not only seems to be mostly written not by a regular users, but by people who contribute to CoMaps (!) - they all fail to show why exactly anybody should migrate from established app with authors who have years of experience of making Maps.Me and OM - to…

> I saw plenty of real problems with Organic maps described.

What problems exactly?

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by pixelesque »

adamjb wrote: post #76
Tomte wrote: post #73

CoMaps starts maximally zoomed out (showing the whole world). Organic Map starts showing my neighbourhood. That‘s the simple reason I‘m using Organic Maps and not taking a fifth look at CoMaps (and I downloaded CoMaps yesterday after the HN thread).

CoMaps remembers the zoom and position of your last session and returns there on launch

Which isn't particularly helpful if you're moving around a lot.

Would be nice for a preference.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by franga2000 »

ponkipo wrote: post #75

I've read both Organic Maps thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48794446 (as it's my favorite map app I use for years around the world, and I'm an active OSM contributor as well) which quickly became overrun with CoMaps followers trash-talking about OM, now this thread appears. What I find interesting to see, and I think it's not just me who can see this - that basically every mention of CoMaps and why it is…

Given the nature of the problems with OM, this makes sense. The dispute is about governance and money, which is something that only the people involved in development will deeply care about. It makes sense they're the main people talking about it.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by schubidubiduba »

ponkipo wrote: post #75

I've read both Organic Maps thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48794446 (as it's my favorite map app I use for years around the world, and I'm an active OSM contributor as well) which quickly became overrun with CoMaps followers trash-talking about OM, now this thread appears. What I find interesting to see, and I think it's not just me who can see this - that basically every mention of CoMaps and why it is…

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Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by hnarn »

ponkipo wrote: post #75

I've read both Organic Maps thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48794446 (as it's my favorite map app I use for years around the world, and I'm an active OSM contributor as well) which quickly became overrun with CoMaps followers trash-talking about OM, now this thread appears. What I find interesting to see, and I think it's not just me who can see this - that basically every mention of CoMaps and why it is…

I’m an Organic Maps user and from a cursory glance I can see no reason to use CoMaps instead, it looks like the same app and I’d wish they’d make an attempt to clearer differentiate themselves since this will be an obvious question.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by vladms »

ponkipo wrote: post #75

I've read both Organic Maps thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48794446 (as it's my favorite map app I use for years around the world, and I'm an active OSM contributor as well) which quickly became overrun with CoMaps followers trash-talking about OM, now this thread appears. What I find interesting to see, and I think it's not just me who can see this - that basically every mention of CoMaps and why it is…

> it not only seems to be mostly written not by a regular users, but by people who contribute to CoMaps

How did you evaluate that? I use CoMaps, I am not a contributor to it, but in the comments I read I do not remember seeing many people specifying clearly if they are or not contributors (there might have been, but it did not feel like "mostly").

For me CoMaps worked well in the ~6 months for my use-cases (with some issues with the search as everybody reports for both projects). I like much better the site of CoMaps than of OrganicMaps, which influenced a bit my decision to use it. I also like they are hosted on Codeberg than on github.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by lukan »

wraptile wrote: post #87
szszrk wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I strongly disagree. Open maps don't have to compete in this space and it would make them worse. Yes, that is something google maps excels in. Absolutely. But trying to compete here would mean they have to shift into being a social media and their biggest effort would be content moderation. There are some intermediate options here. Osmand integrates Mapilary images (I'm not a fan personally), they have travel guides…

> shift into being a social media and their biggest effort would be content moderation. I really don't buy this argument. You already have to moderate submissions - what's an extra field? Sure, UGC is more opinionated but just don't add star ratings and anything that promotes gaming of system. Just let users expand the dataset with more information, it's almost never a bad idea - isn't that entire point of crowdsourc…

"Just let users expand the dataset with more information, it's almost never a bad idea"

Thanks for the laugh.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by mid-kid »

wraptile wrote: post #83

What FOSS maps need is user generated content. For example, having "swimming spot" on my map is not really that useful - it needs photos, some description, additional information of what it actually is and how to reach it as bare minimum to be actually competitive. OSM argues that it's a "map database" but it stores labels like "opening hours" and "social media links" - why stop there? The UGC vs non-UGC debate has b…

I don't really need a tag saying how to reach the place, but better public transport support would go a long way. I also have this issue with places marked as parkings, to determine whether they're public, open or even reachable.

Re: CoMaps – FOSS Offline Maps

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Post by herrherrmann »

ponkipo wrote: post #72
miroljub wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nitpick: Organic Map is not original project. It's a fork of Maps.me.

Another nitpick: at least OM is made by people who made MapsMe. CoMaps is not - developed by a community, whatever it means.

You can look up who the contributors are, e.g. in their open-source repo: https://codeberg.org/comaps There are also issues and projects with lots of discussions about what to prioritize, etc. So, bashing that “community” is too fuzzy is perhaps not very warranted. (Although I guess they should add a section “Who makes CoMaps?” to the FAQs or so.)
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